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Standards and specification of mild steel

01/23/2007 8:25 PM

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Hi, I wish to know what are the standards and specifications governing the use of "mild steel". Our suppliers of "mild steel" products for the same part number produce different mechanical results.

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Re: Standards and specification of mild steel

01/25/2007 3:57 AM

Hi,

This is rather an open-ended question. I would suggest that a good starting point would be to obtain some internationally recognised standards, such as ASME/ANSI or BSEN, select a suitable material for your needs, and insist - through a QA system - that your supplier adheres to them. You should then start to see some consistent results.

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Re: Standards and specification of mild steel

01/25/2007 5:18 AM

There's a universe of standards according the country and the region of the world you are. If you are supposed to produce steel or would like to use one and need to know exactly its composition, check your regional standard codes and/or the manufacture specs. If - in a more common concern - you are interested in discovering a cross reference between standards, I'd recommend a publication called "Key to Steel", that has most of the steel alloys described and cross referenced, from USA to Japan, including all Europe. Maybe you'll find it in a university library near you for consulting.

But, more important regarding mild steel: this is not a high strengh material, and is very dependent upon the manufacture process (i.e., typically, the amount of cold forming and/or forging and/or heat treating for stress relief) they come from. Are you using the same grade spec , not talking about the chemical composition itself?

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Re: Standards and specification of mild steel

01/25/2007 8:12 AM

Unless your application works with a minimum yield strength of 30,000 psi, I would get a book from your local steel warehouse and spec in an appropriate grade of steel that will guarantee the minimum properties you need.

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Re: Standards and specification of mild steel

01/25/2007 8:42 AM

for a start you can try ASTM A36, the most common mild steel. Depends on your industry, there is various type of mild steel for different application, tell us what you plan to use the steel for may give us an idea on what kind of steel you should used.

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Re: Standards and specification of mild steel

01/25/2007 8:57 AM

Hi Jim

I use "MILD STEEL" quite often. "Sinks in Water" spec!

Mild steel is the general term for grading steel that does not conform to the usual standards. ie 50W is weldable, and the carbon content is one important factor for it's meldability that can only be so high. Some mild steel may also be subgraded as a "Carbon Max 33". I believe this means they are saying at least the carbon content will not exceed 0.33%. Which I guess may bring it into a "weldable" catagory.

Depending on who your vendor is, you should be able to get the mill chemical analysis of the steel, even if it hasn't been graded. From that point take a look at the compositions and look at the material, and take a look at how it will be used.

If it's a lifting device or some sort of critical component I would go with a graded product. The cost difference usually isn't that great.

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Re: Standards and specification of mild steel

01/25/2007 9:55 AM

find out what type of 'mild steel' your supplier gives u, the specific grade. Then goto matweb.com type in the grade/type. It'll give u all the info about the material.

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Re: Standards and specification of mild steel

01/25/2007 10:43 AM

Steel suppliers use standards as a "minimum" spec requirement. So, the "lot" of steel they are selling will meet A36, but it also might meet the standards for other grades of steel. To my knowledge, there is not a standard for "mild steel". So, the supplier will furnish whatever is cheapest (usually on hand, leftover from some larger order) to clear his shelves. So you mild steel might be A36, something stronger, or something that meets no standard.

Suggest you determine what steel requirements you need; tell the supplier those requirements and he'll suggest a material. Or consult a good materials engineer/specifier.

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Re: Standards and specification of mild steel

01/25/2007 11:03 AM

As you indicate, most steel manufacturers will look at off-grade heats of steel and sell it to a different standard so that it will meet the "minimum" specification; however, what is purchased from a given manufacturer may be substantially different while still meeting the spec.

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Re: Standards and specification of mild steel

01/25/2007 11:07 AM

Oh yeah, people here have showed an important point of view: what do you need? If you need further material control, it is strongly recommended that you narrow your own spec prior to contacting your suppliers. But, if even the most ordinary steel you received met your needs, why worry? Pick the cheaper one...

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