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deevamp40
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Career in CFD- Turbine Design, Fluid Dynamics?

01/27/2010 9:15 AM

Hai big brains;

I like to change my career path from current one(System & Product Design-small components such as coin dispenser,etc) to one in turbine design,CFD,fluid dynamics etc......What should i do to move to the same? where can i find the details about these things....My basics in fluid dynamics is pretty good...Can anyone help me with this?
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01/27/2010 12:45 PM

Do not know to what extend your basics are, but the first steps that can be done concurrently is look at what courses are offered in CFD....remember you need more than just fluid dynamics. You would need math, calculus as well as physics knowledge to support this. As well as physical Metallurgy.

Probably the best is to start networking with people within these fields to help drill down your interests, but to do this you need a common interests such as CFD Turbine design. And when this is done some people go at it ignorant and with arrogance. nobody wants to waste their time with someone who looks to be desperate and looking to ride someones coat tails. When you network, you gave a little, you get alittle....understand. Ask yourself what you have to offer.

And then networking can be done in various ways. classes, conferences and such.

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01/29/2010 9:04 AM

I really appreciate ur advice....will consider it..thanx
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01/29/2010 9:12 AM

But Please help me where should i start from,,,as i am an amateur in turbine design???
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01/29/2010 9:46 AM

The field of CFD is not something to be taking lightly

Example if your are starting from scratch. Education may take as long as 6 years full time.....gave or take.

The first thing one has to establish is your willing and actual serious commitment.

This we have to do to rule out any emotional not well thought out ideas.

First how long have you been thinking about this career change?

What is your age?

What exactly is your Educational Background?

And what is your experience?

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02/03/2010 8:20 AM

Btech in mech

Age : 23

Working since 2008

got 7 months exp in system design & the rest in production(pressure vessels)

I am thinking abt this career change since last 3-4mths
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01/27/2010 11:40 PM

deevamp -- You're looking to switch from one side of mechanical engineering to the other. You will find that the skills in machine design and system control that you previously exercised will be helpful in your new chosen area of work. But they will be secondary to the job at hand.

I'm assuming here you have had a conventional degreed education in mechanical engineering or physics that involved advanced math subjects. Get ready for a deeper review and perhaps new learning of the math associated with thermodynamics as well as the mathematical basis of 3 dimensional computer analysis of continua. If differential equations was painful for you take heart in the fact that you had one exposure to it and will find the review less painful the second time around. CFD and finite element analysis of turbomachinery structures is still an imperfect science. You will have to be able to determine the reliability of your solution results and that will be difficult if you are not well grounded in the underlying mathematics. Lacking that you will find yourself working at the technician level or perhaps low level sales engineer if indeed you can find employment at all.

I worked in my engineering career fairly close to that world several times. You will not do well unless you are quite talented as engineers go. A "B" or "C" average in your undergraduate work will not bode well for you.

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01/29/2010 9:08 AM

I have good track record in my schools...but still i am an amateur in turbine design technologies....i got basics in thermodyanmics...but i dont know what first step should i take or where should i start from for getting into this career...I got a good hold of Calculus too.....but i couldnt go for a masters degree now....please help me in finding "where should i start from....??
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01/29/2010 9:49 AM

What you just said we can not quantify.....e.i. you said nothing of value, for us to give you a start.

We need a reference point.

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02/03/2010 8:26 AM

i really want to work in turbine designing & compressed fluid dynamics...What types of basics should I master in first, before going to this area. The only thing i got now is 6-7mths of system design(nowhere near fluid dynamics),Machine design & exp in production of pressure vessels.....I think u guys can help me with this..!!!
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02/03/2010 4:02 PM

deevamp -- If you were in the USA or Canada I'd say you're going to have to do a BSME or equivalent with emphasis on thermodynamics and fluids. If you can get credit for most of your first and second year and a few third year courses you took in the Btech in Mech program that will help a lot. I'm figuring though that your math in that program probably wasn't heavy enough so you'll likely be doing at least 4-5 semesters worth of work to get the new degree. That and a lot of enthusiasm may get your foot in the door to a company that operates at a level of engineering work that makes serious use of CFD methods.

That's where you want to be; but you'll likely have to keep going with your education at the Masters degree level, which shouldn't be too difficult if your intellectual talents are up to that stuff. Big companies usually have tuition refund plans for relevant graduate education.

My thought at this point is that you should set your sights on a company or industry that employs engineers of the type you want to become. Evaluate whether you can get hired even right now into any position that will put you in the same organization where you will meet and work with senior mechanical engineers working in the world of heat power or turbomachinery. Look to see if that company supports serious career development of their technical employees and has a good tuition refund program.

Also look for job locations near acreddited engineering universities and then look at or even talk to them about exactly what their admissions policies, costs and credit transfer policies are about. Go visit them ready to provide a transcript.

Then look forward to working full time and getting your engineering education nights and weekends at a local engineering university. With this program you will work your butt off for 8-10 years with limited time for outside activities. If you marry and especially if you have children plan to be able to support your family without your wife having to work so she can focus on raising the kids. Otherwise your life will be a disaster.

I worked for 7 years at Worthington Pump in New Jersey with many engineers that had worked full time while getting their engineering degrees at night from Newark College of Engineering or one of the other 9 universities (in the 1950's) around New York City that had part time engineering degree programs. I even went through that grind for the last year of my BSME and much of my graduate work. It's hard work but many others have done it before you. But do heed my warnings about how that part of your life has to relate to marriage partners or any other immovable personal responsibilities.

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02/04/2010 9:08 AM

thnx dude..
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01/28/2010 7:41 PM

You probably need to do a Masters degree in CFD.. A basic ME degree with some CFD exposure is not good enough for most places.

Start looking for degree programs in your area in CFD and pursue some education.
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