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Battery Charger Ripple content

01/31/2010 1:41 AM

We have a 24V Battery charger supplying around 400 Amps DC load and also giving the float charge to the back up battery bank in Constant Voltage mode. This charger is more than 15yrs old. The present problem is that the ripple content is very high and the Instrumentation team is apprehensive that this may result in failure of the electronic cards due to exposure to higher overall voltage due to the ripple content in spite of having filters.

Another problem we are facing is that though we have double redundancy or back up (two chargers in parallel with a diode decoupler plus the battery back up) there have been situations where the electronic cards have hung and the reason attributed is that there was a voltage dip which didn't recover within the expected period (some millli seconds) Any similar experience and relevant solutions please?

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Re: Battery Charger Ripple content

01/31/2010 10:40 AM

If the ripple is a new thing, then I'd suspect that you've lost one of the filter capacitors in the charger. If your redundant supply (or battery) isn't kicking in at the right time, then you should check the voltage from each supply, upstream from the diode. 15 years is getting old, maybe it's time for repair or replacement.

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Re: Battery Charger Ripple content

01/31/2010 10:33 PM

If you plan to replace the old chargers, get at least 12-pulse (or 18-pulse is better) rectifier. This will be expensive but help to reduce the ripple factor in the DC system and harmonic current in the AC input side.

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Re: Battery Charger Ripple content

02/01/2010 12:36 AM

Please replace the filter capacitors. They have lost "ability to filter". As a ISO 9001-2000 (tuv) certified manufacturer of battery charger for power plants and substations, we regularly face this issue and suggest our customers to replace it once in 6-7 years.

Thanks and regards

Ashok Toshniwal, Bangalore, India.

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Re: Battery Charger Ripple content

02/01/2010 2:16 AM

Dear Friend,

Failure of plant machinary PCBs is due to repple content in the DC. The repple content can be avoided in two ways.

1. With the help of filter units (if they are in the cubicle, it should be working perfectly and can be asscertained through oscillators)

2. By replacing the SCR(Semi conducting rectifiers) which are not performing in the circuit.

Good luck

CVS Murthy

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Electric Power Division

GMMCO Limited.

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Re: Battery Charger Ripple content

02/01/2010 2:17 AM

You will find some big large electrolytic capacitors at the out put. These electrolytic capacitors capacity goes down due to ageing effect. Add some more capacitors or just replace them and your problem will be solved. The other Chance is "out put choke failure". This is very rare but chances are there. Hence check choke rating; is it same as marked or not. I am assuming that the CV charger is in-perfect working condition. If any one SCR fails also the out put ripple will increase. In electronics the only component that is effected by ageing is Electrolytic capacitor.

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Re: Battery Charger Ripple content

02/01/2010 4:43 AM

Regards.

Battery itself is considered to be an infinty [∞] Capacitor and inspite there are a lot of batteries in back-up I wonder if either the measurements are misleading or the batteies are flat.

Check the batteries on HRD [Hi-Rate Discharge] tester for actual condition of batteries

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Re: Battery Charger Ripple content

02/24/2010 3:06 AM

Thank you all for the replies with your comments. We are in the process or replacing the filter capacitors and will be replacing the charger by the end of next year. The possibility of procuring a 12 pulse charger is being discussed for cost - benefit. The 12 pulse seems to be more prevalently used for UPS & VFDs for reducing harmonics.

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