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Plate Heat Exchangers

02/11/2010 6:14 AM

for frame and end cover material SA-516 grade 70 according to specification for plate heat exchangers

can i change it to SA-516 grade 60 where it available? or it big different?

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Re: plate heat exchangers

02/11/2010 7:41 AM

It will largely depend on the liquid you are moving through the cooler.

What is both the liquid being cooled and the cooling liquid?

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Re: plate heat exchangers

02/11/2010 8:25 AM

DM water with corrosion inhabitor in hot side

sea water (service water with 10PPM sodium hypochlorite) in cold side

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#14
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Re: plate heat exchangers

02/17/2010 9:54 AM

you mean sea water or service water? is the water deaerated?

i think you should consider the corrosion resistance of your material, carbon steel, in contact with an aerated water..

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#2

Re: plate heat exchangers

02/11/2010 7:53 AM

The decision on material is not based on availability.

It depends on

a) What the end use demands (note it is use not user, we usually give mistakenly more importance to the second one, even at the cost of first)

b) What the codes demand (though again usually taken to be the last word, this do not overrule the first)

c) The availability and cost of the material is an option only after the fisr two are met, and satisfied by the members of the set.

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#3
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Re: plate heat exchangers

02/11/2010 7:55 AM

PS: there is difference in the mechanical properties of both, though there is over-laps but the minimum properties are different.

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#5

Re: Plate Heat Exchangers

02/11/2010 1:43 PM

The BIG difference is a 15% reduction in strength.

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#6

Re: Plate Heat Exchangers

02/11/2010 3:18 PM

You should be able to substitute for the gr.60 with no problems.

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#7
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Re: Plate Heat Exchangers

02/11/2010 11:56 PM

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh, except for the strength.

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#8
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Re: Plate Heat Exchangers

02/12/2010 7:57 AM

youre not putting the thing on a space ship are ya????

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#9
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Re: Plate Heat Exchangers

02/12/2010 9:40 AM

No, I made the apparently wrong presumption that this heat exchanger was being built to a recognized pressure vessel standard. But hey, if even the purchase order says to be built to a standard, why follow that? Heck, why not go with gage thickness steel (0.32") instead of plate. Or instead of 516-60 why not save even more money and go with a more readily available bamboo shoot or balsa wood? While we are at it, lets just do away with all those other "rules" and neglect to do any NDT work on this heat exchanger too.

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Re: Plate Heat Exchangers

02/12/2010 10:02 AM

You first asked if the freaking material would work. It will work, if you already have your own jackass answers to everything, than why even ask the question to start with?

Why not at least grow the balls necessary to list yourself as something besides an un-known guest anyway?

Have a nice life, butt head...

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#11
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Re: Plate Heat Exchangers

02/12/2010 12:22 PM

Hi Tim, you are getting confused with various guests

G1 was the OP,

G2 was me.

The answer sequence shows there was another G3 too (so the person you are berating is not the OP)

The problem with OP (and here I agree with G3) is that he has neither defined the operating parameters nor whether it is a code vessel.

However he is using SA material means mostlikely he is in code. And that will not permit him to go two grades down when the design has specified something.

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#12
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Re: Plate Heat Exchangers

02/12/2010 12:31 PM

Ahhh ok, why not regester? Thanks for setting me streight

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#13

Re: Plate Heat Exchangers

02/15/2010 4:10 AM

No problem to use SA 516 Grade 60 instead of SA 516 Grade 70, taking into consideration the lower allowable tensile strength of Grade 60 compared with Grade 70, which will affect on plate thickness.

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