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Vintage Dynamic Wheel Balancing

02/12/2010 9:13 AM

As a kid, I have this memory of seeing a mechanic balance the wheels on my dad's car by attaching a device to the rim, from where a rod would stick out along the axis of the wheel. There were something like 3 bearing looking devices on that rod and while getting the wheel rotated with an electrical roller against the tire, the mechanic would slide his hands on each of the bearing like devices. As the wheel would stop, he would read on those bearing like devices the position and size of the leads to be added. Anybody remember seeing this or using this ? any idea about how this actually worked ? Can you relate this process to some other activity ? (those were not mirrors and it was not about alignment)

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Re: Vintage dynamic wheel balancing done on the car

02/12/2010 9:58 AM

Yes in the early 70's as a young man i high school worked in a garage. They had one it had three dials in the center. They moved weight around the wheel to balance it. It did do better job of balancing as it balanced the whole wheel as an assembly not just tire and rim. Took a bit of skill from the mechanic to operate not like the machines today.

Never used one as was explain to me one dial change the weight, one changed the location on the circumference and one move it in or out on the wheel. First you would find the major weight of imbalance and location split the weight and place front and back of the rim. Then you would fine tune by moving smaller amounts weight in and out on the wheel and place weights.

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Re: Vintage dynamic wheel balancing done on the car

02/12/2010 10:23 AM

Thanks ! Anyone has pictures and finer details about how the three adjustments operated while the wheel was turning ? I can imagine the adjustment rings being screwed in OR out while the wheel was turning but not how to switch the direction of each of those adjustments.

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02/13/2010 2:33 AM

This is how I balance tyre/wheel- get a s/h hub-loosen off bearing- lube with oil- fit tyre/wheel- turn slightly- will drop to one position- mark this with marker at lowest point- put on balance weights by trial & error till assbly stops in diff pos at every slight turn(at point at top opp mark)- fit to car- if wheel shakes at over 90km/hr- split weight to inner side- repeat. I have never had any trouble with this m ethod . It would be called static balancing- I learnt it from balancing bicycle & motor cycle wheels. I well remember buying a new tyre from a tyre- dealer- balanced as I watched on a bubble setup- shook to hell- balanced my way- perfect. Check condition of tyre you are fitting- these days steel radials often fail from tread separation- no balance can compensate for out of round tyre.

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02/13/2010 9:00 AM

The one I used had 4 little knobs centered on the shaft. Two adjusted the weight. Two positioned the weight around the the axis. You started by giving a slight weight and rotating the weight around until the vibration lessened. then you fine tuned between position and total weight. It took a little practice to get it right, but with practice, you could get a very accurate balance. Not everyone had the patience so results varied by who did the work. They also ran very fast, so they could be dangerous. Most truck shops probably still use them or have them around.

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02/14/2010 7:38 PM

The best balancing guy in our area put his head against the frame while adjusting the weights.Purrrfect!

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02/15/2010 9:38 AM

Thanks ! This relates to what I remember, even though I am not really sure : I was under the impression that the balancing was done with the wheel turning and not in an iterative trial and error way - Your guy with his forhead would turn the "knobs" while having his forhead against the frame until he would null out the vibration. There would be another iteration only to check the effect of the added leads. If that is indeed the case, the mechanics of this device must have been quite clever (adjustments made while the wheel was turning). I will check into a truck shop on the next occasion (good suggestion). If anybody can, please confirm that adjustment was done with wheel turning. If so, any insight into the working of the device would still help to satisfy my curiosity.

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02/15/2010 4:30 PM

The device you are talking about was a dynamic wheel balancer. The way it works is that it had four rings (bearing like devices) that were used to increase the weight and location of the weight that was required to balance the tire and wheel assy. The first ring increased the weight. the second ring decreased the weight, the third ring moved the weight clockwise and the fourth ring moved the weight counterclockwise. To use the device the tire and wheel would be spun by an electric motor with a drum attached that was applied to the tire through a lever that would press the drum against the tire and spin it to a speed of approx. 75 mph. By moving the dials you can increase the weight and move it around on the wheel until the vibration is negated by the weight. Most people would take one hand and lay it on then side of the fender with their middle finger lifted above the fender and would watch for vibration on the raised finger. By working the dials you could increase the weight and location to counter the out of balance condition of the tire. Once the vibration was gone then you would stop the tire and in a window of the balancer would be a number showing the amount of weight and an arrow on the hub would show you where on the wheel to apply the specified amount of weight.

Hope this explains it to your understanding and it was an extremely accurate way to balance a tire but they quit using these balancers because they were deemed to be to dangerous to use.

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02/15/2010 5:32 PM

Thanks Jim, I guess that covers it all. Clever device indeed. Will check into a truck shop to see if I can actually see one.

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02/17/2010 9:00 AM

I worked in two shops that had that type of wheel balancing equipment. With some practice the mounting of the balancer was the most time consuming part of the operation. It is just as you described it. I made a good bit of money with that setup.

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