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Motorizing the Manual 3 Roller Pipe Bending Machine

03/26/2010 10:16 PM

Am motorizing the manual pipe bending machine.The machine has two rollers for holding a pipe and another one got mounted to screw handle which has got upward and downward movement for varying the load , so i am motorizing the machine for the movement of two rollers which are holding the pipe. I have got a power of 2hp for 1cm deflection and 5hp for 2cm deflection. And my sir insisted me to do belt drive for that so what are all the tips and suggestions that i can do further either in motorizing or if do you have any suggestions on any other link mechanism to drive the rollers. please send links and other useful stuffs to my email address: mysoregani@gmail.com

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03/27/2010 7:23 PM

Without some means to stop the device under power when a worker is accidentally drawn into it you will have created a death trap.limit switches light curtains, guards around belt sheaves and pulleys and adequate guarding around pinch points are essential.

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03/27/2010 8:14 PM

so what could i do now, thanks for pointing out most valuable things in our project

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03/27/2010 8:46 PM

Well if the man is hand feeding/guiding the material into this machine, make him have to pull out on a bar that is attached to a kill switch. so if he gets pulled in, as he moves toward the pinch point, he pushes the bar in and that shuts off machine. Look up 'dead man switch,' kill switch, and cable limit switches. OMRON is an excellent company with highest technology in this area.

Put a steel mesh Expanded metal guard everywhere except a small window through which the product will travel. these can be made using angle iron and expanded metal and use little bent rods to hold them into "eyes" on the struts that will hold them up, but allow them to be easily removed.Then he wont be able to contact moving parts.

If you design it as if it was your mother or daughter that was going to operate it, you'll get it right. milo

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03/28/2010 2:58 PM

I don't think you are going to get enough reduction with belts. I made such a unit, and it had a lot of reduction, so the pipe didn't move too quickly. I think I used a foot switch so I could keep both hands on the pipe being fed into the machine. If anything went wrong, my foot came off the switch.

I was making copper coils, it was fun. I had the rollers offset so they would roll a continuous coil, like a spring.

Look into worm drives, they are compact, and all the workings are enclosed.

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03/31/2010 8:40 AM

A picture or sketch would help.

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03/31/2010 11:53 AM

http://www.pro-tools.com/m3roll.htm please go through this link...you will get the clear idea about the machine...

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04/01/2010 11:48 AM

Excellent! The picture is quite clear.

Let me suggest another approach: replace the drive screw with a hydraulic cylinder, powered by either a manual or electric hydraulic pump. Benders of this type may be described as "one-shot benders" or "segment benders." A Web search on these terms may give you a few illustrations.

If the budget cannot support a hydraulic unit, you could replace the "T" handle on the screw with a fairly large belt pulley, driven by a motor with a smaller pulley.

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04/01/2010 5:54 PM

Tornado, my google of the site he listed showed a roller type pipe bender. The T handle adjusts the center roller, controls the radius of the bend. The L handle turns the movable wheel, feeding the pipe through the machine. It would be the L handle that would be motorized, to power feed the pipe. For the one I motorized, I mounted a motor with built in gear reduction to the L handle shaft.

One shot or segment benders are the conduit benders, just a piece of pipe with a segment of curve on the end.

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04/02/2010 11:05 AM

Good catch, and thanks. I didn't look closely enough.

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04/02/2010 1:21 AM

thank for your valuable suggestions...but am also designing it.. so while designing i've got a load of 60KN for 10mm deflection and the rollers are 300mm apart... i've considered that as simply supported beam with load acting at centre which is roller 3.. so please can you make any corrections in my design... so that i can reduce the load... because 60KN means around 6tons..so how could a man able put that load... please give your valuable suggestions... if possible i'll send the link of the design datas which i've made ...ill be waiting ....reply soon

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04/02/2010 10:56 AM

If the six tons of load is the downward force on the center wheel, don't worry about it, that's just force the machine is working with. If the six tons of force is the load that it takes to push the pipe through the machine, don't worry about it, turning the roller handle reduces that force using mechanical advantage.

Use a torque wrench to measure the torque required to rotate the L handle (not the T handle) on the center wheel, that is what you should be motorizing. I'm sure you will find it in the range of something you can find. Many times I will use a power drill to drive hand tools. A large power drill has gear reduction, reverse, a chuck to grab the shaft, and will give you a good idea of what to look for in a permanent solution.

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