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Cathodic Corrosion Protection

03/29/2010 9:57 AM

The statement below is an extract from the request for proposal that am using for the earthing of a 250MW power gas station.Sincerely, i dont understand what they mean by cathodic corrosion protection of the earth conductor and how can this be achieved.The request for proposal clearly stated that protection should be made available for earth conductors that leave the concrete.The earthing system is question is a mat grid

"The design of the earthing system and materials to be used shall comply with the requirements for the specified cathodic corrosion protection".

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Re: Cathodic Corrosion Protection

03/29/2010 1:32 PM

cathodic protection on boats is by the use of a zinc block also called sacrificial block.

its purpose is to protect the main part of the metal boat from corrosion,

i can only assume they want the same protection on the earthing so that the earth plate/rod does not corrode away

explantion also on google

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathodic_protection

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03/29/2010 6:56 PM

GA Peter. In the Navy, we used sacrificial zinc anodes on small craft to help minimize corrosion of steel hulls. On larger vessels, we used active systems, impressing a DC current upon the anodes, which was somewhat more effective. The only real problem I see here is that sacrificial anodes have a limited lifespan, and it may be difficult to pull his grounds out of the ground to replace them.

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03/30/2010 8:45 AM

Would it be possible to place the sacrificial blocks in a shaft attached to a retrieval rod and connected to the grid,

then every so often the rods and blocks could be removed and replaced if required.?

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Re: Cathodic Corrosion Protection

03/29/2010 2:20 PM

Tinned copper is considered to be corrosion resistant. Such as if it is a harsh environment with acidic pH level in the local soil. The wording quoted seems to imply that there should be a cathodic corrosion protection specification section (or subsection) for which to comply with.

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Re: Cathodic Corrosion Protection

03/30/2010 5:06 AM

In this context it refers to dissimilar metals. For example, a power station with a steel earth mat with corrode if connected to a copper earth mat via a Transmission Line.

The soultion can be simple or a detailed study of the half cell reactions. It depends on details of the earth mat, nearby infra structure, grid infrastructure, soil structure and the "requirements for the specified cathodic corrosion protection" etc.

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Re: Cathodic Corrosion Protection

03/30/2010 5:44 AM

Thank you very much for your contribution.

The power station in question is a mat grid and am using copper conductor of 150mm2 ."The request for proposal stated that all conductors embedded in concrete shall be copper and adequate protection should be provided when the copper conductors leave the concrete",so am thinking concrete mix has a way of affecting copper conductors and probably they should be something i should apply to reduce the effect.Presently the few conductors that i have passed through concrete are some how changing color to black.I was thinking of using short piece of RGS conduit at the point where the conductors leave the concrete.What do u think?

Thanks to everybody that have contributed thus far.

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Re: Cathodic Corrosion Protection

03/30/2010 8:01 PM

This is a common request. You should consider using a PVC sleeve at the boundary. The PVC sleeve should be filled with concrete. We have implemented this on our 765kV tower foundations, where the guys corroded. This should ensure that the conductor is encased in concrete below the soil surface. Time will tell if this is good solution.

I would however highlight to your customer that the entire system must be studied from a corrosion point of view. By making this requirement without first understanding all the mechanisims in play can have undesirded effects. I am an electrical engineer, but I have been around long enough to appreciate the value of a competent corrosion engineer.

Good luck.

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Re: Cathodic Corrosion Protection

03/30/2010 8:06 AM

Due to stray currents in the earth, the corrosion can be initiated between the formatted cathodes and anodes on the structure itself located under the ground. In cathodic protection, we do our best to make the structure to work as a cathode by erecting an external anode (which will be corroded) to compensate the anode area located at the structure (see the figure), where the external anode shall be connected to the structure/pipe to work as a corroded anode to allow for the whole corrosion to be occurred at the external anode, where the structure (cathode) can be protected.

See the following files in PDF format:

Cathodic_Protection_for_on_Grade Storage Tanks and Buried Piping &

Cathodic_Protection.

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Re: Cathodic Corrosion Protection

03/30/2010 2:08 PM

Anode (sacrificial) & cathode (protected pipe) connection:

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03/31/2010 12:55 PM

Thanks Abdel for your contribution on this subject.

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