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Thermal - Heatsink

04/02/2010 7:32 PM

Hello,

I would like to learn how to design a heat sink with heatpipe and fins to draw heat away from a very hot electronic ship.

Is there any free simulation software to do design and model the heat transfer cooling process

Thank you very much

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04/02/2010 7:40 PM

" very hot electronic ship." As in a ship that goes on the water?

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04/02/2010 8:19 PM

I suspect he meant "Chip"

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04/02/2010 8:21 PM

Oh. Thanks, language barrier.

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04/03/2010 2:24 PM

yes CHIP like LED ... :)

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04/02/2010 11:58 PM
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Re: Thermal - Heatsink

04/03/2010 12:20 AM

Hi jkng,

Heat transfer is a very complex area of research. Taking into account heat transfer coefficients of the materials involved, heat sink geometry, heat pipe geometry, convection orientation/direction, convection magnitude, and material surface effects, deriving a solution from these is not trivial. Because of this, you will not find a "free" program out there.

Companies spend great amounts of money on research and testing, determining what works well and what doesn't.

If you want to design something that will work, you are going to have to investigate current technology and determine what types of designs work well. Then, make up a prototype based on such information and subject it to testing. If it doesn't perform as you need it to, it's "back to the drawing board".

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Re: Thermal - Heatsink

04/12/2010 1:09 AM

Thank you all for your reply posts.

Is there ant comercial software the help developing and simulating the process ?

If I like to make a prototype using heat pipe (may be with sintering) and fin, where would I be able to purchase the material ?

Thanks you so much!

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04/03/2010 11:04 PM

Have a look at CAELinux. If you do not know the fundamentals of heat transfer, however, NO software, no matter what the price, is going to give you a correct answer. If you are well-versed in thermodynamics, then Code_Saturne with Syrthes, or OpenFOAM my be of use to you...

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04/04/2010 2:46 AM

As mentioned in the replies the subject needs considerable work with or without software. After the design the solution will still need to be tested to show it does what was predicted. Using thermal package in Proengineer some progress can be made and may remove some of the unproductive ideas out of the way. However I would suggest a more conventional approach.

If heatpipe is to be used - there is data from the supplier and they are usually very helpfiul. It is also well known that every application is different and requires some 'correction factors' to predict the performance. Design the heatpipe - to sink the heat - buy one and test it outside the circuitry before launching into the real electronics.

You will need to know how to attach the pipe and how to get rid of the heat in the orientation chosen.

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04/05/2010 2:17 AM

Hi jkng,

As expressed by the Gurus, designing a heat pipe based heat sink need some expertise not only in the subject but also, in its manufacturing. The heat load, environmental conditions, attachment of heat source to heat sink, optimal transporting capacity of heat pipes, embedding of heat pipes, dissipation area calculations, physical limitations . . . . . and many other. The technology is still evolving and you will not find a ready made calculator on the web for this.

We as the manufacturer of heat pipe based heat sinks know what considerations go in so, why don't you just forward the data to us instead of working on something which will take quite some time to perfect. It took us two years of research and investment to reach the stage that we are in today.

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