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Missile System Fixed Horizontally on Earth Tangent

04/04/2010 1:51 AM

This is just a theoretical question and nothing to do with any project. Idea is dedicated to those who celebrate their birthday once in four year as they are born on Feb 29th,

Would it be possible to adjust earth spin time by fixing a huge missile or missile system on earth tangent fixed horizontally at equator , missile is fixed rigidly so that in don't fly in air. And as result of reactive force there may be an increase or decrease in earth spin time.

I am sure all missile on our globe clubbed together can make a little change, and also this can be first step toward denuclearization.

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04/04/2010 2:41 AM

Interesting idea, I will just throw this out there.

The recent 8.8 earthquake in Chile "disaster shortened the length of a day by about 1.26 microseconds"

http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=99870

Now, an 8.8 earthquake has an energy of 15.8 gigtons (TNT) / 66.3 EJ:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter_magnitude_scale

The Hiroshima bomb had an energy of 12-15 kt (TNT) / 50-63 TJ.

So, if there is any relationship between any of this:

It would take approx 1 million "Little Boy" bombs to be equivalent to that one earthquake.

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04/04/2010 3:36 AM

Right on.

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04/04/2010 4:09 AM

Good Data, Thanks for posting.

But I guess a missile may be more efficient than of any earthquake for equal amount of energy release.

What is your say?

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04/04/2010 11:24 PM

The change of time has been the result of mass movements, in several directions, with different amplitudes.

Chili is close to the equator but the shift hasn't been exactly in the rotation track.

You might save a couple of rockets when you work on the equator in one direction. I guess with you.

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04/06/2010 11:37 AM

Agreed, Thank you.

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04/04/2010 3:09 PM

So, which do you advocate? Increasing the rotation speed or decreasing it?

Although I suspect that any change will be infinitesimal. And a huge waste of money.

And tons and tons of pollution of the worst kind.

Don't mess with Mother Nature!

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04/05/2010 6:02 AM

It would be easier and less polluting to get everyone in the world to stand on a chair, thus increasing the earth's moment or enertia.

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04/05/2010 1:07 AM

So you are planning to add up to Global warming!

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04/05/2010 6:05 AM

No. If the rocket exhaust did not leave the earth, there would be no net change in angular momentum.

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04/05/2010 6:08 AM

Dear Mr Semwal,

First of all we have to differentiate between the weight and gravity possessed by the projectiles and that of earth. However huge the missile is made, it will always remain the part of earth (to move it).

1. To succeed in your venture, you will have to make very long engine and arrange your exhaust in space beyond the gravitational limits of the earth. Blasting all the missiles within earths gravity will only damage the earth its atmosphere.

2. The total force produced should be enough to counter the total kinetic energy produces by earth which is 1/2 mv Sqare. Please calculate by taking the mass and speed of earths revolution around the sun.

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04/06/2010 11:39 AM

Very logical, Thank you for comments,

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04/05/2010 7:55 AM

Yes and we should get superman to fly really fast around the earth and accelerate it backwards to reverse time... That way we could go back to before nuclear weapons were invented and stop their develpoment before it ever started...

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04/05/2010 8:17 AM

Playing with Mother Nature is very risky.

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04/05/2010 10:21 PM

Hi,

A cheaper solution is just to celebrate birthday on March 1st the other 3 years.

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04/06/2010 7:42 AM

No, because each action has an equal and opposite reaction. The eastward (say) trust of the rocket will be counteracted by the westward flow of combustion gases.

The earth's spin speed changes by around +/-10msec per day anyway as a result of winds changing direction, according to reports. This is why atomic clocks are used as a time standard now, and not the movement of the earth against the fixed stars. The earth's own clock just ain't accurate enough for some souls....

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04/06/2010 11:35 AM

Thank you for enlightenment,

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04/06/2010 11:41 AM

Thanks to everyone for participating, I was not on my PC for last 2days, sorry for no response.

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