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I Need a Heat Resistant Board / Pad...

04/13/2010 4:45 AM

...about 8" x 8", so I might be able to get an offcut!

More seriously, we have such a thing at the Cathedral already and it is used on top of a wooden chest of drawers underneath the lit camping gas burner, when lighting the charcoal, and during and after the service as a stand for the hot base of the thurible (the "smoking handbag" in which the incense is burnt).

All this happens in a wooden panelled room (with a plastic false ceiling) with servers wandering around, getting robed in long cotton robes; the board is a safety measure (!)

One of the servers has suddenly noticed (funny, it took me two seconds to identify it some years ago) that this board is made of asbestos (quick: panic) and is predicting death and destruction. The Sub-sacristan admitted, when I asked today, that it is starting to "fray" at the edges...ok, now I'm happy to condemn it. We're going to get the Cathedral authoritites to contact the Council to get it disposed of properly.

My problem - after all that build up - is that we need something with which to replace it.

I've had a quick scrabble round the tinterweb, and found the following:

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/heat-resistant-soldering-brazing-pad/path/gas-torches

http://www.allproducts.com/manufacture100/vermiculiteboad/product4.html

Does anyone have any experience of these? Can anyone recommend anything they've used with success? Can I get it for minimum outlay?*

Thanks in advance - you'll be helping to keep an irreplaceable and archtechturally important piece of 12th century English Gothic building-work standing!

*Just for the record, it takes £4M to keep the place going - over £1M of that on vital maintenance. All of the money is raised by the Cathedral itself: nothing comes from government funding - you'd be surprised how many people think that tax money gets spent on churches and cathedrals!

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04/13/2010 5:44 AM

I was going to suggest the soldering pad.
Maybe a couple of damp choir boys (Kris made me say that)
Maybe just a nice thick slab of stone/concrete etc with enough thermal mass to just soak it up?
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04/13/2010 7:30 AM

Thanks Del - I didn't want you all to think I hadn't tried...I was wondering if there was anything better out there.

Damp choir boys? We try to keep ours dry, they light more easily that way

I don't think the CoD would survive a block of stone (Cathedral has its own quarry, so it wouldn't be a problem...), but I might ask.

Meantime, I'll recommend the soldering pad, and this is for you:

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04/13/2010 11:47 AM

You wouldn't have this problem if you just used a stone table in the open air like any sensible religion ().

I have used some clay/fiber composite braze boards (come in 6x6 and 6x12 sizes) that were very dusty new, but not too bad after I rinsed thoroughly and let them dry out. Might be suitable if placed on a metal tray or the like.

I also use slate tiles as a layer of fireproofing - 12X12 is a usual size and not expensive by the each. With your own quarry.... I would think a one inch thick slab of stone would be perfectly adequate for the 'fireproofing ' purpose - it might break if you actually have a serious fire, otherwise...

Fire brick would be considered the best protection - a potter might be able to make you a custom slab of reasonable weight and thickness. Then you can campfire on the dresser to your heart's content.

I like the look of the fiberglass pad, too (haven't tried em) except it might be a tippy or slippy surface to stand something on.

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04/13/2010 11:51 AM

Hey dude, you are just after my seafood platter...
Step away from the food, keep your hands where we can see 'em.
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04/13/2010 12:02 PM

I must admit it looks delicious.

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04/14/2010 1:20 AM

A word of advice, NEVER get between a cat and seafood, it ain't pretty lemme tell ya...

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04/14/2010 3:46 AM

Hi artsmith,

We've not met before...else you'd know I also do the open air sensible religion too (yeah, it's complicated, if you're that interested PM me, it's waay too off-topic for here!) although I tend to eshew the stone tables and use what is provided locally.

The boards in your link look cool - direct replacements for what we have. Thanks

And I should have said, the charcoal, once lit (held in tongs) is placed straight in the thurible, rather than on the pad - at least, that's the intention.

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04/13/2010 12:54 PM

What about a ceramic or porcelain floor tile underneath. Eventually with 4 rubber or felt feet, to keep it from sliding.

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04/14/2010 3:34 AM

GA: beat me to it.

UK only (which is good for Rose) B & Q have an offer on at the moment, nine 330 mm square tiles for £4.95. I bought a pack for my wife to cook pizzas on (she saw it on a cookery program).

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04/14/2010 3:48 AM

B&Q here I come...you light a fire under the tiles to cook the pizza?

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04/14/2010 4:50 AM

No just put them in the oven.

We haven't actually tried it yet.

I'll let you know if we get bits of exploded tile embedded in the sides of the oven.

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04/13/2010 1:03 PM

The boards of directors of the big banks seem to be pretty much fireproof, but that's not much help is it?

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04/14/2010 1:25 AM

Might I suggest a bit of woven glass fabric?

http://www.mcmaster.com/#high-temperature-insulation/=6nh3pl

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04/14/2010 4:02 AM

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the helpful (and the amusing) comments; they'll all come in handy.

Del, make sure you wrap up all those shells before you put them in the dustbin - remember we're on fortnightly collections

As it happened, we have a Servers Guild Office last night and we were talking about this at the bun fight afterwards. One of servers is a retired Cathedral carpenter and so he's going to have a word with the masons about polishing up a suitable piece of stone - pale honey sandstone with some beautiful embedded fossils.

By way of thank you, and since Del's scoffed all the seafood, this is on me:

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04/14/2010 7:54 AM

Rose, I'm not sure sandstone is the best material for this. It is rather porous so it will absorb spills and such and cleaning it might be difficult. You might do better with a bit of granite such as the drop piece from installing a sink in a granite counter top.

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04/14/2010 8:05 AM

No spills - it's purely as a heat shield when lighting and "resting" the thurible. No liquids involved (well, not there anyway!)

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Depending on the church, wouldn't the fossils be a bit blasphemous?

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04/16/2010 5:21 AM

PMSL!!! We're Anglican...it's a broad church.......has to be, they let me in!

The sermon on Sunday had the theme "The church is a training school* for sinners, not a social club for saints"

The Anglican church (at least the Church of England) tends not to actually contradict rumours** like evolution. You'd be hard pushed to get a definitive answer, but you might get a fuzzy reply along the lines of the OT not necessarily being an accurate, scientific record, but a record of oral history.

My take is that it is on a par with any of the other creation myths - an attempt to explain how we got here, in the understanding of the time. It's got things in pretty much the right order, it also describes a "motive force" behind the process which is the bit that is unscientific (for want a a better word or longer phrase).

I hope this doesn't infringe the "no religion" rule; after all, I'm not proselytising, just engaging in an (I hope) amusing exchange over fossils, of all definitions!

*I think he meant training them NOT to be sinners...

**I'm joking, Roger. Really I am! I'll set the penguins on you...

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04/14/2010 9:34 AM

You can get some very nice looking marble floor tiles 250mm square by 20 mm thick, your mason would only have to bevel and polish the edges. It would fit the decor of your church.

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04/16/2010 5:21 AM

No marble floors here, in fact I think the sandstone flagging has aleady been turned over and so is worn on both sides now!

There are some dark marble pillars at the east end, but the majority of the stonework is local sandstone, from the Cathedral's own quarry.

Polishing a square for us would be a perfect apprentice job - we have one of the best apprentice schemes in the country in terms of teaching the maintenance of [very] old buildings - and he (or she) would have the satisfaction of knowing that it would be used, rather than just being a test piece. (Who else remembers filing 1 mm off a metal cube and getting each face square and flat...)

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04/14/2010 4:50 AM

I think the most cost-effective resolution will be to use Fire resistant Plasterboard, as available at local Travis Perkins Builder's Merchants in UK - 8 x 4 & 6 x 3 sheets from memory.

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04/14/2010 7:01 AM

have you thought of using supalux board, you can get it in most plumbers merchants, we use it as a replacement to asbestos boards, it`s easy to cut and fire resistant

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04/14/2010 7:10 AM

fogot to log in lol. supalux board is £8 at my local city plumbing supplies, if you know any heating fitter they will probably have offcuts

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Thanks. I'll look out for some!

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04/18/2010 1:10 PM

Here in the US, all the Kitchen Supply shops have been offering Silcone pads and other utensils for the past few years. A pad your size might cost $5. Imagine they are available world wide, since many are from China. Should withstand 500 F.

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