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05/09/2010 1:35 PM

http://jena.firstdaystory2.com/atf.php?sid=239

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after prom party discovered by police



Citation issued…

A very large party for minors was discovered by law enforcement Saturday night following Jena High School's annual prom, resulting in at least one citation being issued.

According to LaSalle Parish Sheriff Scott Franklin, deputies were called to assist Louisiana State Troopers who accidentally discovered the party in Belah around 11:30 p.m., May 2.

"While on patrol, a trooper saw several vehicles in line driving erratically on the Belah Road," the sheriff said. "Once he got them stopped, he found out the group was looking for a party that was taking place somewhere in the Belah area."

Another trooper was also in the area and went to assist the trooper with the vehicles stopped and happened upon the location of the party in Belah.

"The other trooper was cutting through the Nebo-Belah Road and came upon the road being blocked on Clyde Road, just down from Fellowship Elementary School," the sheriff said. "Vehicles were everywhere and there must have been over 300 people partying at a barn owned by Harvey Joe Price."

Deputies soon arrived to assist the troopers as they investigated the party, where they discovered the greatest number of people attending the party were juveniles.

"There was a lot of drinking (alcoholic beverages) and it seemed that nearly everyone had something in their hands," Franklin said. "Because we only had around 5 or 6 officers there and so many people, we could not perform the arrests that we wanted to."

Although the party was held on Price's property, the organizer of the party was William Rad Morphis, 24, of Jena, according to the sheriff. Morphis was issued a citation for letting a disorderly place.

"Never did we imagine such a large, alcoholic party for minors would take place after the prom or we would have had more officers on duty," Franklin said. "This type of behavior is illegal and is something I've pledged to stop since my campaign."

The sheriff said it is illegal for minors (under age 21) to drink or be in possession of alcoholic beverages and it is illegal for those 21 or older to provide alcoholic beverages to minors.

He said that in the future, adults would be charged for throwing such parties, including adults who have knowledge of such parties.

"Whether you hold the party yourself or serve as a chaperone at one of these illegal parties, this department will charge you according to the law," he said. "Every year thousands of teenagers die from automobile accidents because of drinking and driving so why would anyone promote such activity?"

At the party Saturday night, deputies blocked the roads and checked every driver to make sure they were sober before allowing them to leave. Minors who had been drinking had their parents called to come and pick them up.

"We were unprepared for this event but rest assured we will not be caught off-guard again," the sheriff said. "In the future, we'll be prepared and people will be arrested and charged for these types of parties."

"If you facilitate such an event or you come to the party as a chaperone, you will be charged," the sheriff said. "I'm very serious about keeping our young people alive and if this means arresting some parents or adults who promote this lifestyle with our youth, then that's what we'll do."

The sheriff also commended the two state troopers for their work in uncovering the party.

"They were very professional and handled themselves respectfully despite the adversity they faced that night," he said. "They deserve credit for doing their job and doing it well."

This is part of the May 6, 2009 online edition of The Jena Times.

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My question.

How does the above story,a year old,,compare with your hometown?

Hopefully I will get a few comments.

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Joe in Texas

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05/09/2010 2:03 PM

I am not familiar with the high school scene in the town I live in here in west Texas, but the college has had some parties that I heard of. This kind of thing doesn't happen on campus often because our full time campus police staff are alert and tend to catch even small parties with underage drinking.

Off campus is another story, much more area than the local police can cover so thoroughly. Being too old and boring to attend these parties (not to mention disinclined to contribute to under age alcohol abuse) I try to extend a drive home offer to my fellow students. So far nobody has taken me up on the offer, which worries me. I have stated every time that anyone is free to call me for a ride home if they have been drinking, but nobody has called yet.

I believe that our American young adults are not shown how to drink responsibly. Their examples are either on television where alcohol is commonly abused in reality shows, or by parents / guardians / role models that are commonly polar opposites of alcohol abusers or don't drink at all. Parents that don't drink are almost as bad at teaching our teenagers how to handle adulthood as people that abuse alcohol. There was a study in my psychology book that showed children of parents that don't drink have a similar likelihood of alcohol abuse as children of alcohol abusers.

My question about the above article is how can you charge someone who knew about the party and did not inform the police. So if I see a party going on down the road from my house, I am obligated to inform the police or become an accomplice? It seems to me that wouldn't hold up in court and the police are overstepping their authority.

He said that in the future, adults would be charged for throwing such parties, including adults who have knowledge of such parties.

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05/09/2010 10:23 PM

"I believe that our American young adults are not shown how to drink responsibly".

As an outside observer I just have to agree with what you say.

In many European countries it is perfectly acceptable for even quite young children to be allowed a small glass of wine with a meal, even at a restaurant. The same behaviour in the US would result in the parents being prosecuted for something or other. How then can the kids learn to drink responsibly and to "enjoy" a drink rather than to enjoy the effects of drink.

No wonder the kids (if you can call a twenty year old a kid) go and get drunk at secret parties.

I served my time in the military in my own country and I can not imagine getting back from "action" and sitting down with my Troop for a lemonade.

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05/09/2010 2:39 PM

The land of the free?
I heard recently on BBC radio that the USA has the highest number of people in prison per capita than any other country and the highest number of juveniles in prison too.
I also heard (BBC radio again) that kids were being sent to prison for spraying grafittii if caught, which seems rather draconian.
Dunno if the info is correct.

Not sure this is even an appropriate forum for this discussion as it is likely to descend into politics.

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05/09/2010 3:00 PM

"Not sure this is even an appropriate forum for this discussion as it is likely to descend into politics."

Or worse, religion.

I hate taggers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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05/09/2010 9:31 PM

HI Lyn,

What are taggers?

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05/09/2010 9:41 PM

Taggers are criminals who use, mostly, spray paint to deface public property. Del mentioned graffiti in his post.

Mostly to mark gang territory. So, when one gang tags a spot, the rival gangs all paint over the original. Kinda like dogs peeing on a tree.

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This is an example. It will cost the owner of the property about $400.00USD to have this size removed. If he's lucky it's a surface that can be painted for $50.00USD.

I deal with it every day. I have three maintenance people who spend about 20 man hours a week eradicating graffiti in a 1 square mile, downtown area in Arizona.

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05/10/2010 2:46 AM

I hate taggers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wub them big strippey puddy tads.
Guy on a quiz show the other night blew £30,000.
He was asked what's the largest menber of the cat familly?
a) Lion
b) Jaguar
c) Tiger

He said Lion ... it's Tiger of course.
You could see he was really gutted...he'd been umming and ahhing about it, mumbling 'I know it seems too obvious...err...yes Lion is my final answer....'
Still he's no worse off than when he went in and he's leaned something about Tigers!

Oh tagger... I geddit.
Yeah, bad graffitti is the pits, but some of it is art.
Do you really hate 'em more than the bankers who end up putting working guys on the dole and yet don't get sent to jail?
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05/09/2010 3:56 PM

The US is odd. Back in the day it was legal for me to drink at 18, which came about due to the recognition that if you were old enough to fight and die as a soldier for the agendas of your country, then you ought to be legally empowered to get drunk.

It is unrealistic to have laws against normal living practices.

One of the more depressing stories of my career comes from a shoot at a prison. A guard told me he recaptured a 16 year old boy who had been put in the prison for pot with boy rapers.

Chris Meloni was in this film. I was the Key Grip and drove the truck, and when they asked me if I was armed from the gun tower I said, "Yes." Put my .38 in their bucket and they held it till I left.

Later on I got caught with my pistol and some pot, and never got my pistol back. I threatened to cry if they were to put me in jail, so they let me out on my own recognizance.

The bar was bugged. Sometimes they record what you say in bars in the US. The US has long been at war with itself.

All of this is inappropriate.

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05/09/2010 4:16 PM

I agree: The US is odd.

I don't agree that "they" bug bars. "They" don't waste time fishing for information in bars without a ton of probable cause. Besides, it's too difficult to record conversations in bars, unless someone has control of the juke box and TV.

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05/09/2010 4:40 PM

Actually they do bug bars in NC. In fact I was alerted to this due to some time in Hendersonville NC, while working on a movie, where in the bar there was a notice that said audio survalience was ongoing.

In the particular case where I was arrested, I had said at the bar, that I had gotten some good pot and was going to drive home and smoke it.

If you know what microphones to use, you can get readable audio.

The fact is that I was in a good and open mood, said something, and was stopped when I had not driven badly. In fact I was not charged with Drunken Driving, but only charged with having some pot and a pistol. I did have some pot, and a revolver, but really there was no reason to stop me. Hence my belief that the bar was bugged.

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05/09/2010 5:28 PM

Big Brother strikes again.

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05/09/2010 8:21 PM

there is the ability for NSA to monitor phone traffic, with whatever keywords causing conversations to be recorded, but we all know how problematic it is to pick out keywords that don't bring too many hits

under the cover of homeland security almost anything is probable cause.

at the end of the day some one still has to monitor all the conversations of interest

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05/09/2010 7:49 PM

Sad but true, check out our Human Rights Violations, they are worse than any other country I have been in.

Of course the politicians are shareholders in the Private Prisons and Prison Industries, and probably including:

http://kariandren.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/adventure-at-huntingdon-prison/

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05/12/2010 12:02 AM

Actually it was AFTER I had posted that link that I learned it was a year old,,yawn,,,glad to meet my neighbors,,,Personally it is the Swamp Panther,cry at night like a woman screaming,,,,funny,,(or just odd) i never heard one,,nor even saw tracks,,and at 14 i stayed in the woods from daylight till dark,,,

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I hate taggers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wub them big strippey puddy tads.
Guy on a quiz show the other night blew £30,000.
He was asked what's the largest menber of the cat familly?
a) Lion
b) Jaguar
c) Tiger

He said Lion ... it's Tiger of course.
You could see he was really gutted...he'd been umming and ahhing about it, mumbling 'I know it seems too obvious...err...yes Lion is my final answer....'
Still he's no worse off than when he went in and he's leaned something about Tigers!

Oh tagger... I geddit.
Yeah, bad graffitti is the pits, but some of it is art.
Do you really hate 'em more than the bankers who end up putting working guys on the dole and yet don't get sent to jail?
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