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Question About Testing Approach

05/11/2010 7:09 AM

Hello everyone. I have a question about vibration testing approach.

In vibration testing of a specimen, we are conducting X, Y and Z tests consecutively. As far as I know, it would be ideal to conduct all three simultaneously because that's what the specimen (a satellite component) would experience during launch. But we cannot do that because we don't have three-axis (or even two-axis) shakers.

We recently did such a test for a component. We did sinuzoidal test run first and a random test run afterwards for each axis, with low level random runs in between all for diagnosis purposes. We did this for X, rinsed, and repeated for Y and then for Z. All was fine and our component performed well after the test campaign.

Then we conducted system level tests on our satellite and found that the component experienced a load spectrum that exceeded the one we applied in our component tests. We decided to do a seperate test campaign that will apply only the exceeding spectrum (the frequency range that exceeds the spectrum and the G^2/Hz loads that is applied). This spectrum has lower loads on most of it, but has very high loads in a tight range. This was designed so that we would keep the total Grms low so that we wouldn't put much fatigue on the equipment.

But recently I learned that we have to use a seperate specimen this time, because the previous one is not available. Thus, the previous fatigued specimen won't be used but a new one.

My question is; in light of the information I gave above, do you think testing can be done on seperate specimens for different axes (or runs) and be considered complete? Or should all test runs be conducted on the same specimen? I mean, if I do X axis tests first and Y axis tests second, and if I started a crack on X tests, it will probably propagate in the Y tests. I won't see this effect if I do X and Y on two different specimens. But then again, I wasn't supposed to do them consecutively either? And in my more specialized case; should I apply the full spectrum + the elevated spectrum on the new specimen just to be on the safe side (means more runs and consuming more time), or would the "different specimen for different runs" approach be technically correct?

Tell me if you need any more information. And thanks in advance for all the advice! :)

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05/11/2010 7:20 AM

My view is that you should use the same specimen.
To follow your own example, if a crack started on test X.
a) It's failed anyway.
b) It may not be noticed if it is microscopic in which case test Y making it propagate will be a good thing as it will make it visible.
Conversely if test X does no damage then proceeding with test Y won't be a problem.
Again this is just my furry opinion.
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05/11/2010 8:33 AM

No, that is at least misleading, you would be making up the results, because you will always have a specimen that has not been tested in at least two axes, and you just assigned to it, the results from another.

Just think: what if the DUT was about to fail on an axis that was not tested?

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05/11/2010 9:34 AM

Testing one component in all three axes simultaneously is significantly cheaper than a dead bird.

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05/11/2010 10:56 AM

You can use following approach:

- in the satellite the vibrations will be at same time generated on the 3 axis

- the vectors will sum to a resultant vector with a direction depending on the amplitudes of the vectors on X, Y and Z axis.

If you shaker vibration axis is on same direction as the resulting vector with a single test you cover the entire behaviour under actual conditions. The only thing you have to do is to design an interface between the component and the shaker's surface so that the component position will be as mentioned above: oriented in the resulting vector direction.

This is the so called transversal thinking. The classical linear thinking is we have 3 directions we must make 3 tests but in reality the 3 directions are loaded at same time! A successive test on one direction is LESS representative for the way the component accepts the actual loading which is 3 directional. As Dell said if a crack appears under "X" and is too small then "Y" may be will make it visible, BUT in reality NEVER the loading will be on "X" , "Y" or "Z" only it will be on the 3 !

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05/11/2010 11:00 AM

Like all good, clever answers it's bliningly obvious once you understand (OK I did have to read it twice s-l-o-w-l-y ).
Shame there isn't a Very Good Answer button.
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05/11/2010 3:08 PM

Thank you, you did not understand due to the fact that English is NOT my original language so that I have some time ways to explain which are not very clear.

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05/11/2010 5:36 PM

I intended no criticism at all. I have virtually no other languages at my command.
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05/12/2010 1:44 AM

Thank you for the insight.

Designing an appropriate fixture would be a reasonable approach; but I was once told that it would be just pseudo-three-axis test and you need actual stimulation on all axes in order to test the actual condition. But there seems to be another problem; there is random vibration testing involved and if you do random test in three axes simultaneously, your resulting vector direction will constantly change because the magnitude in each axis is random...

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05/12/2010 3:15 AM

It is random in the three axes but it is generated by a source and the source is usually coherent in the three axes. This means that the vector will not change very much its direction.

From an other point of view the need to verify in 3 axes depends on the fastening method between components and board. The board compliance is maximal (and the critical frequency minimal) in the direction normal to the board plane. In same direction the stiffness of the fasteners is maximal. In this direction the component can be considered as part of the board as a local added mass. In the other directions the fasteners have a higher compliance but the combination between component mass and stiffness leads normally to higher critical frequency.

Up to you how you want to make your tests but I would discuss with the specificator since a combined test can bring more insight. 3 combined tests (at different angles and frequencies spectra) can bring more than 3 tests with only one direction. So that you have same number of tests but more knowledge at same cost!

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05/12/2010 3:10 AM

nick name is ofcourse absolutely right but in view that you have only a one axis shaker that might be out of the question. So, if you have been able to define a representative load spectrum separated in the three axes then you have to perform these consecutive tests on the same sample and preferrably do this on a set of samples. The test is a simulation (or representation) of actual load on the component and applies load cycles to it which contribute to the overall fatigue loading of the component. At the end of the test the component will have been fatigue damaged by these accumulated load cycles. This is ofcourse assuming that loads in all axes operate in the finite life regime of the component. If loads in a specific axis operate in the infinite life regime then you may get away with completely skipping the test for this axis.

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