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AWS D17.1 Welding Specs

05/20/2010 9:07 AM

I'm very new to the field of welding (2 weeks) and need help. I'm trying to help write (or buy) welding procedures (WPS) in accordance with AWS D17.1 (aerospace welding) for a tube groove (6G) weld using aluminum (6061), GTAW. I have found lots of WPS in accordance with D1.1 or D1.2, but those specs are not what I need. Could anyone point me in the right direction? Thank you!

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Re: AWS D17.1 Welding Specs

05/20/2010 11:26 AM

WPS America is the best site I have found for purchasing pre qualified welding procedure specifications (WPS). They have D17.1 WPS, but they are not free.

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Re: AWS D17.1 Welding Specs

05/20/2010 11:34 AM

Thank you! I checked out the site, but I do not see that WPS offers aluminum (6061) as a base material, only steel variations. I do need two specs with steel (4130) as a base metal, so this will help. Thanks!

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05/20/2010 11:50 AM

Their Demo doesn't let you choose anything but D1.1 Base Groups. Those WPS's they show in the demo are all pre qualfied and are available free anyway. They want you to join or pay for the work they did to qualify the procedures.

If you don't want to shell out the money, and then find they don't have what you're looking for, call or email first.

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Re: AWS D17.1 Welding Specs

05/20/2010 2:50 PM

I'm retired from the shipbuilding field and a little rusty(no pun intended)about welding. I do seem to recall that welding was not recommended on 6061 alloys, as the material would lose it's strength. All welding that was done was on 5000 series alloys. Some welding on 6061 was allowed, but only where strength was not an important factor.

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05/20/2010 3:02 PM

I'm retired from the shipbuilding field and a little rusty(no pun intended)about welding. I do seem to recall that welding was not recommended on 6061 alloys, as the material would lose it's strength. All welding that was done was on 5000 series alloys. Some welding on 6061 was allowed, but only where strength was not an important factor.

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05/20/2010 9:56 PM

This may not be what you are looking for, but:

MIL-W-22248A

is about weldment requirements. Might be good for reference.

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Re: AWS D17.1 Welding Specs

05/21/2010 3:34 AM

This may be of your interest welding aluminum.

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Re: AWS D17.1 Welding Specs

05/30/2010 11:19 PM

WeldingGirl,

If i were you i will ask the Company where you work to buy first book for AWS D17.1 Aerospace Welding Specs. then read it understand its contents look for the requirements to be meet. Once you understood its contents especially in regards to AL establish and write your WPS then buy all the raw materials, equipment etc needed for the qualification. You can do this with the help from your welding electrode/filler materials Supplier they can guide you of their products and you can ask their expertize to write your WPS also. They are the one who knows better how to weld properly and provide the correct welding parameters, gas, etc as well as suggesting the right welding machine. You must also have a 6G qualified welder to qualify your WPS. This is the only time you will know what have you written is correct after conducting all necessary examination, test like visual inspection, if pass send for Radiography Test, if it pass, send for mechanical testing and other required test in accordance with AWS D17.1. Take note if any test i mentioned failed you have to repeat the procedure and if mechanical testing failed you have to change your welding parameter (again with the help of Welding Consumables Supplier) until you successfully qualified your WPS. Advice you to use a good welder with a proven record. Cheers...

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Re: AWS D17.1 Welding Specs

05/30/2010 11:36 PM

In addition you will require a QI (qualified inspector) to witness the welding execution a third party to signed your WPS after successful qualification. Hopefully it will guide you to the right direction.

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