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Power Transformer Vector Group Test

05/23/2010 6:51 AM

How can we test vector group of a power transformer ?

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05/23/2010 7:29 AM

Can you send me a mail thro this forum's mailbox - intimating your mail IDZ so that I can send you a complete write up on Vector Groups & its testing? I am unable to load diagrams in thie forum.

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05/23/2010 10:06 AM

Hi, Suvo Nababarsha 1417. I've a practical way to check the vector group of a transformer. Consider Primary side phases as R, Y and B and corresponding secondary phases are r, y and b.

1. Short R-r by a copper wire.

2. Now apply 415 V(increase the voltage gradually to limit the current) in between R-Y-B.

3. Now measure voltage as below-

For DY11- VBy= VBb and VYy<VYb

For DY1- VYy= VYb and VBb<VBy

Y-Y or D-D grouping can be detected easily.

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05/24/2010 2:42 AM

Shuvo nobobarso.Thank you for your answer and cooperation.Can we do this by shorting any other terminals.In that case what will be the condition for being Dyn11 &

Dyn1.

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05/25/2010 1:55 AM

I've given you the example by considering R phase as reference. You can do it by considering any other phase as reference and then you have to measure voltages as I mentioned earlier, but the suffix and prefix of the equations will be different.

As Samad vai told, never apply the voltage in LV winding.

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05/25/2010 4:29 AM

Thanks for your reply.

Could you please explain this with diagram if we short R-c for Dyn1

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11/13/2010 4:30 AM

hi i am ali khani from iran

please explane me how to test victor group trans test in ynd11 and ynd1 and ynd5 and dyn1

thanks

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11/13/2010 11:23 PM

Dear Sidhu

pl. re-check the conditions with vector representation.

I believe the conditions for DY1 and DY11 are interchanged.

For DY1, VBb=VBy and VYy < VYb

For Dy11, VYy=VYb and VBb<VYb.

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02/21/2011 1:02 AM

For Dyn11

V(Bb)<V(BY) &

V(bY)=V(yY)

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05/23/2010 10:53 PM

You can download image files...

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05/23/2010 11:46 PM

Just supporting Sidhu16:

See this link. It has many testing for transformer, including the vector group (Dy11 and Dy1) testing that Sidhu16 mentioned.

http://electricalandelectronics.org/2008/09/21/power-transformers/ (section 2.4.9: Phasor Group Testing)

Caution: Never apply voltage to the low voltage side.

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05/24/2010 2:57 AM

Thanks for your nice answer.

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05/25/2010 1:58 AM

Insallah! are Samad vai, apni to Bangali. Ami o Bangali.

When I get praise from you and you support any of my comment then it work as boost up for me.

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01/17/2011 11:46 PM

dear electrical expert can u tell me how to perform the vector group test ,,,i mean how u can get the conditions for different vector groups...i.e dyn11 or dyn1 ...

my mail id is shailesh0508@hotmail.com

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