Previous in Forum: Refractory Heat Loss Calculation   Next in Forum: Faded Powder Coated Paint of Outdoor Switchgear
Close
Close
Close
2 comments
Rate Comments: Nested
Guru
Australia - Member - New Member

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 2181
Good Answers: 255

Water Permeability Through Pipe Walls

05/23/2010 10:58 PM

Does nyone have access to details for water permeability of materials used in pipe manufacture?

I am wanting to calculate how much water "soaks through" the pipe surfaces that we have.

I have managed to find and understand the relationship for "concrete", but also need to find the factors applicable for other materials and especially Asbestos Cement.

The equation looks like this

k=(V*T)/(h*A*t) Where

V = volume of water passing

T = material thickness

h = pressure

A = Area exposed to water

t = time of exposure

(units that I'm using are SI, but I'm able to do the conversions if you can tell me the "k" factor and some detail of conditions applicable.)

From the sources I've found for concrete, the values range 1E-11 to 1E-4, and at a pinch, I'll just have to extrapolate AC (Asbestoc Cement) to be somewhere in that range.

Would also be interested in similar factors for other usual pipe materials.

__________________
Just an Engineer from the land down under.
Register to Reply
Interested in this topic? By joining CR4 you can "subscribe" to
this discussion and receive notification when new comments are added.
Guru

Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 42355
Good Answers: 1693
#1

Re: Water Permeability Through Pipe Walls

05/23/2010 11:11 PM

Moisture vapor transmission rate is what you want.

I expect that something like Modern Plastics Encyc. or Plastics Engineering or other materials sites would have the info.

Good luck.

Maybe here:

Permeability and Other Film Properties pf Plastics and Elastomers (TA455.P5P47 1995) (Also available through UC on the Web)
Permeability Properties of Plastics and Elastomers : A Guide to Packaging and Barrier Materials (TA455.P5 M344 2003) (Also available through UC on the Web) Physical Properties of Polymers (TA455.P58 P474 2006) (Also available to OhioLINK institutions on the Web)

Plastic Applications Database (Also available through UC on the Web)

Never mind. You have to sign up for these.↑

Register to Reply
Guru
Australia - Member - New Member

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 2181
Good Answers: 255
#2

Re: Water Permeability Through Pipe Walls

05/31/2010 11:37 PM

Thanks for the palstics links. Having worked at a place with substantial plastic injection moulding, the situation with those materials is easy for me to extrapolate.

I've found the relevant rate for various concrete mixtures, but for AC, even the suppliers have come up blank.

For what I'm doing, I'll presume the AC is a factor of 10 worse than standard concrete and go with that.

We're not installing any new AC, but we do have a lot already in the ground. The evidence that I'm observing is that water does "soak" through the wall sections much faster than concrete pipe of the same exposure.

__________________
Just an Engineer from the land down under.
Register to Reply
Register to Reply 2 comments

Previous in Forum: Refractory Heat Loss Calculation   Next in Forum: Faded Powder Coated Paint of Outdoor Switchgear

Advertisement