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Troubleshooting Brakes on a Saturn

06/04/2010 8:27 PM

I have a 1995 Saturn. When I first start driving after it's been parked for a while the brakes work fine. After the 2nd or 3rd time I use the brakes I start getting almost a grinding sound and the pedal seems real soft. I checked the pads and they're fine. It seems like I have to push the pedal really hard to get the car to stop. Could this be the power brake booster , master cylinder or possibly both? Any advice would be appreciated.

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Re: Troubleshooting Brakes on a Saturn

06/04/2010 11:00 PM

A power brake boost leak would make it harder for the brakes to be applied in each subsequent use, but I don't think that that would cause a grinding sound. It almost sounds like you have a stuck caliper or piston that is preventing the pads from releasing the disk. As the disk heats up during the drive, fluids can even boil in the hydraulics and bingo insufficient brakes just when you don't want it. A frozen caliper would also explain why you've been getting many miles between brake jobs, the pads just won't wear away.

Do not let this go to long. Brakes are the primary safety system of any vehicle. Get this fixed.

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Re: Troublshooting Brakes on a Saturn

06/05/2010 12:31 AM

Please! What happens if a little kid runs out in front of you as you go 35MPH and can't stop in time?

Have it towed to a shop.

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Re: Troublshooting Brakes on a Saturn

06/05/2010 10:31 AM

1 When you say pads are fine, How much braking material is left on them ?

2 Is the break fluid going down in the resovoir ?

3 Can you say where the "Grinding Noise is coming from Front or Back ?

4 When were the brakes replaced last ie how many miles ago.

5 if the brake shoes and pads have not been replaced how many miles has vehicle done.

6 And the last one, Try using the hand brake only on a strech of empty road to slow car down, and see if that produces the noise.

If you hear the grinding noise when using the hand brake only, Your rear shoes or pads have worn down and need replacing.

It is very common on front disc rear drum brakes for the pads only being changed when serviced and the rear shoes not to be replaced as they down wear down as fast as the front brakes, as the rear brakes only contribute about 25% of the total braking force applied by the driver.

please report back findings

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Re: Troublshooting Brakes on a Saturn

06/06/2010 12:51 PM

How many miles have been driven between the first brake application and 2nd & 3rd?

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Re: Troublshooting Brakes on a Saturn

06/06/2010 4:30 PM

How did you check the pads? Did you remove the front wheels to check all 4 pads or did you do a fast outside visual check?

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Re: Troubleshooting Brakes on a Saturn

06/07/2010 8:26 AM

Put on new pads and rotors. This sounds like a comination of new pads on worn down rotors and a serious need to bleed the brakes. You may end up rebuilding the pistons in the calipers. The brake pads wont grind unless the are cracked, worn away or, have trapped foriegn material like oil and dirt from a leaking cylinder. If you aren't capable don't screw with it and go to a brake shop.

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Re: Troubleshooting Brakes on a Saturn

06/08/2010 10:22 AM

I had a similar problem on my '94 saturn. There is a another hydraulic link in the brake system. When you press the brake pedal, it operates a small master cylinder on the firewall, which moves a slave cylinder attached to the main master cylinder. The small system was leaking, causing the mushy pedal response & problems stopping.

The small master-slave pair is a 1-piece system, tubing included, and must be replaced as a unit. It cost me ~$100 in 2004.

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