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Tank Design

06/07/2010 11:00 AM

Is there tank capacity 60,000 cubic meter?

If yes, please tell me which code is cover it?

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Re: tank design

06/07/2010 11:26 AM

60,000 meter3? That is a big one!

16 Million gallons of what? N2? Bunker oil? Suntan oil?

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06/07/2010 12:32 PM

Banu....

Sure....there can be a tank of 60,000 m3.....but not 60,001 !!!!

Can there be:

- an honest politician ?

- a wife that does not complain ?

- an MBA that uses english instead of buzz-words ?

- a cure for old-age ?

- a car that goes 1000 mph ?

- a perpetual motion machine ?

60,000 m3 tank could have a shell height of 60 ft and a diameter of about 215 ft

Is this question just idle speculation, or are you really doing something related to tanks ?

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Re: Tank Design

06/07/2010 2:35 PM

"please tell me which code is cover it ?"

API 650 covers large storage tanks.

See this link:

http://www.techstreet.com/standards/API/Std_650?product_id=1503605

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06/07/2010 4:18 PM

But as it is a storage Vessel ASME & 97/23EC PED Code may be required

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Re: Tank Design

06/07/2010 5:30 PM

Guest, are you the original poster (OP)?

You say "ASME & 97/23EC PED", as in ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code, Section I, Pressure Equipment Directive 97/23/EC?

Is this to be a pressure vessel? You need to tell us some more, I think.

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Re: Tank Design

06/08/2010 1:03 AM

I didn't meet a lot of that size. Most were crude tanks. India has a lot of them and also SA. The group SGS is performing calibrations and tests on all tanks. They can tell you all the specs concerning your inquiry.

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06/08/2010 3:02 AM

I think that the largest tank in the world was erecter by CBI and has a capacity of 125,000m3. Is a double wall tank for storage propane. Placed close to Qatar or dubai, not sure.

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06/11/2010 12:38 PM

I discovered a pretty big one.....40+MMgallons

Pre-stressed concrete....stores water

The Vallecitos Water District tank in San Marcos...complete ~2007-2008 ?

40 ft shell -- 432 ft diameter

I would give you a link....but the cut-n-paste does not seem to work for me !!!

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06/08/2010 5:06 AM

100 m width x 100 m length x 6 m height or 20 m height x 30m width x 100 m width...or ...etc.?...It is not big deal.

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06/08/2010 5:32 AM

I am with Penn Piper on this but for my 2p worth

For atmospheric tanks ie design pressure just for the weight of the structure and +50mbarg, (both open and floating roof) API 650. This covers all large refinery storage tanks for all grades of petroleum product up to (but not including the LPGs). I have seen tanks of your size of this type.

For a pressure vessel ASME, BS5500 whatever the EU spec is that covers your jurisdiction. Typically these have a minimum pressure of 50 psig 3.5 barg. From my limited experience I would be shocked if this applied. Pressure vessels can be very large but 5,000 m3 is the biggest in my experience (but I am sure there are bigger out there I just don't think they could be as big as 60,000m3. Pressure vessels are usually cylinders and building beyond 10m diam is very specialised. 60000m3 would be a column 12m diam and over 500m tall). So although you could design a vessel this size I think it is impractical. The key aspect of the title for codes is the pressure range not the function of the vessel. All vessels could be called storage (IMHO). ASME VIII etc are concerned with ensuring that the stresses keep the internal pressure contained, not so much with what is going on in he vessel. e.g. ASME VIII applies for compressor Knock Out Vessels, Distillation Columns reactors etc.

The other possibility is a large refrigerated tank for LPG (Propane, Butane) or LNG. I am sure these exist in 60,000m3 sizes. (Quick google and the Gorgon LNG tanks are 180,000m3)

API 2000 Refrig Tanks

API 2510 LPG Systems

Sorry not sure what to use for the LNG Systems

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Re: Tank Design

06/08/2010 2:30 PM

The question on which code covers tanks (pressure tank?) is not so easy to answer whithout have more detailed information. Here are just a few things you might have to consider:

Type of medium to be stored in the tank (flammable, toxic, liquid, gas, corrosive, ......)
intended use (e.g. medical?)
maximum / minimum design pressure
location where the tank will be installed (on some type of vehicle?)
ambient conditions
national and / or local codes (in which country will the tank be built, installed?)
.... just to mention some questions that came instantaneously into my mind.

Of course, do not forget that any combination of the parameters listed above may also habe an influence on the applicable code!

So, please povide more detail if you want to get some conclusive advise.

Regards nudnik

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