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Three Phase Motor Protection Circuit

06/11/2010 11:52 AM

I want a circuit to protect 440V three phase motor. The power of this motor is 1.5KW and it is use as a water pump motor. In our town, electricity is recently cutoff. The phase is not constant,so sometimes the motor is turn reverse direction. So I want to protect this problem.

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Re: Let Me Know About Three Phase Motor Protection Circuit!

06/11/2010 12:02 PM

A combination starter (or non-combo if you have OC protection within line of site of pump) with phase loss and phase reversal protection modules and an HOA on the cover should suffice.

Try SQ-D, Siemens, GE to name a few.

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Re: Let Me Know About Three Phase Motor Protection Circuit!

06/11/2010 12:18 PM

Power rated in kW, frequent loss of generation and reverse connection? Not likely that "Guest" is in the USA or Canada. The terms "combo starter, OC and HOA" are likely meaningless to him.

Guest (and please register so we can differentiate you from the 10,000 other "Guests" on here).

You need what is called a "Motor Protection Relay". These are usually electronic relays that you connect to your power circuit that will detect a phase loss, phase reversal, under voltage, over voltage and many other conditions that can damage your pump long before a basic inexpensive over load relay will act to take the controller off-line. Assuming, from my earlier points, that you are not in North America, you can probably find these from suppliers such as Siemens, ABB, Moeller, Sprecher - Schuh and other large mfrs. I would recommend staying clear of cheap ones from places like China and India, only because f they don't have a recognized good name that needs to be protected, you can end up with junk and also lose your motor.

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06/11/2010 12:35 PM

Just to clarify... i live in India, and can vouch that we have excellent local manufacturers who make thermal overload relays with phase-loss sensitivity which will protect motors against single-phasing even at no load (no load current usually being 40% of FLA). Larsen and Toubro is one such company. Fully indigenous design, and the biggest seller here.

As you say,we also have Siemens in India for more than 100 years. Their relays here are the same as those sold in Germany. Not forgetting ABB (which i set up), Cutler-Hammer, Sprecher+Schuh ...

To be fair, we have many small guys who make pathetic products. Some people buy them, as PT Barnum siad....

However, many of the GE products were also designed here. i myself spent six months in ABB Heidelberg to improve their Thermal Overload relay.

An electronic relay for a 1.5kW standalone motor ? Don't you think it is overkill?

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06/11/2010 1:24 PM

Empty vessel makes more noise........

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06/11/2010 7:45 PM

Oops, missed the phase reversal in my rush of patriotic fervour. Sorry.

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06/12/2010 12:21 AM

use undervoltage and phase reverse relay that is available in the market or approach the elevator (lift) maintanence company they can help you

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