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how does a bubbler level system work?

06/18/2010 5:24 PM

We have a tank with oil waste that uses a bubbler to indicate the level and to activate a pump to lower the level when it reaches a certain level.

It isn't working, but I do understand the principle of its operation.

Google brings up articles on water fountains, not level detectors.

Can someone provide a link to an explanation of how a bubbler works for level?

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Re: how does a bubbler level system work?

06/18/2010 5:32 PM

Take a look at the tutorial on level bubblers, titled

Siemens 101: Theory of Air Bubblers for Liquid Level

It's a pdf document at this site, here:

http://www.lesman.com/unleashd/catalog/level/level_siemens_air-bubbler-system.html

What seems to be the problem?

Usually the regulator gets gritty and dirty internally and stops or restricts the air flow

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Re: how does a bubbler level system work?

06/18/2010 6:51 PM

Interesting. Thanks. That's another thing I knew nothing about until now.

Simple and elegant.

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Re: how does a bubbler level system work?

06/21/2010 5:09 AM

A constant flow of air is directed into the liquid close to the bottom of the vessel using a pipe. The pressure in the air line is almost identical to the liquid head, ignoring flow losses in the pipe. Therefore a pressure sensor in the air line measures the head of the liquid.

Periodic maintenance is necessary to ensure that the pipe is not blocked.

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Re: how does a bubbler level system work?

06/25/2010 6:07 PM

Simply a bubbler works by blowing air thru a tube (sense line) that is inserted into a tank, it measures the pressure it takes to blow the "bubble" and then correlates that into a depth reading (hydrostatic principle). There is more to it than this brief explanation as you may have guessed.

The site; www.levelcom.net has some in depth information on bubblers and current bubbler technology and applications.

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Steve

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Re: how does a bubbler level system work?

06/27/2010 4:43 AM

My Friend, Using air bubbler (static pressure type) to the oil tank will not gives any good read out or control. Air Bubbler can be used only in water tank, reservoir, intake and dam. The components are as follows: *Air compressor, complete with air regulator *DPT *Rotameter *Stainless tubing (SS316) Length is depending on the length required (depth of water), this tubing shall be supported with PVC pipe, with strategic holes around it. We never use this oil tank, due to oil SG and sometimes build up oil residue inside tubing. Eren

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Re: how does a bubbler level system work?

06/27/2010 2:26 PM

Eren:

We have been using Levelcom pulsed air bubblers in diesel, fuel oil and various process related liquids, both food and fuel for over 15 years. The bubblers we use are not continuous flow bubblers but rather a computer driven pulsed bubbler that purges the line and then makes a reading. It has SG input so you can use it for most all oils, H2O, acids, suspensions and many other liquids. A 1.0" to 2.0" down tube set 6" off the tank bottm should take care of any sludge or residue problem. Steve

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Re: how does a bubbler level system work?

11/07/2010 12:59 PM

First bubbler system is preffered for applications wherein you don't want the liquid to be contact with your transmitter sensor/cell (ex. sludge, acid etc.)

In this system, air is purge continously to a dip tube going down the vessel and into the high port of your transmitter. After sometimes, with constant air flow, the pressure inside the tube will be the same as the head pressure of the liquid (hydrostatic pressure). An increase or deacrease in the level of liquid will correspond to an increase and decrease of the back pressure in the tube which is sensed to the high port of the transmitter. Thus, the back pressure experienced in by the cell of your transmitter infers the liquid level of your vessel.

It is then almost the same as a dp principle where you need to know your liquid's density/SG and liquid pressure. But for you to maintain accuracy of level measurement, you need to have a continous monitoring of constant air flow in the system.

Control and Instrumentation,

DINO N. LACSAMANA

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Re: how does a bubbler level system work?

11/07/2010 10:29 PM

Check. www.levelcom.net. Contact info is there also.

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