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footer question

07/31/2010 9:29 AM

I need to put up a "hand ball" wall for a local prison.

They require it to be 22' high and 40' long with a 12" thickness and no support walls.

I feel I need a 6' wide footer 2' thick with the bottom 6' below ground with rebar going from the bottom of the footer to the top of the wall.

This will be flanked with a 40' X 40' slab on each side of the wall so that games can be played on both sides at once.

I need help on design or a referal on an inexpensive engineer in central Indiana.

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07/31/2010 11:11 AM

A Guest asked the same question:

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/57934/Back-Board-for-Back-to-Back-Handball-Courts

I don't know anything about code enforcement in Indiana, but check what documentation is required by the prison, they are government and usually want the whole nine yards. Sorry, can't help with an engineer there.

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08/01/2010 12:23 AM

You may call Gregg Vanderlaan VP Arcardis Gerrity & Miller 35 wacker Drive Chicago iilnois 60606 (deleted phone number)

He may be able to help you.You may refer my name to him.Explain your budget issues.Greg is avery helpfull person.You need an engineer with Professional lisence and liability insurance.

Allen Bahn

American Consulting Services Inc.

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08/01/2010 8:05 AM

Thanks,

This could be very helpful.

I have been doing this type of work for about 40 years but the customer normally provides approved plans - -- - The state of Indiana seems to feel they can get the work done cheaper if they require the contractor to do it.

I guess this might get them several options but the contractor must cover the cost some way and the only way I know is to pass it on!

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08/01/2010 11:13 PM

Keep in mind the state wants the work done cheaply, but also want someone else to blame if things go wrong. Get an SE who will seal the work for you, and include his price into the proposal.

I am a bit surprised they are letting what sounds like a design/build contract out for bid like this. If part of the work is submitting design plans for approval, you should ask during pre-bid what the procedure is for the client's review and approval process. If it takes 2 or 3 or whatever rounds to get approval, some one will get stuck footing a bill for some ones time.

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08/02/2010 9:02 AM

Well, I do know that the depth of your footer is not only dependent of the structure that it is supporting but on your soil conditions and where your frost line is, as well.

Same with the wall thickness, I can see a non-engineer spec'ing the height and width and desire to have no side walls, but the minimum thickness will be determined as a result of a calculation, not an arbitrary specification.

Due to the nature of what you're building, where you're building it, the fact that it can have no side walls for support, and that you don't want the liability related to it falling on someone… every aspect of this should be designed through a P.E. that takes into consideration all the associated variables.

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