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The Relationship Between V and I

08/04/2010 1:25 AM

the contradictory relation between v an I

V=P/I- inversely proportional in case of power sources and or transformer

V=I/R - directly proportional in all loads

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08/04/2010 1:45 AM

Ohm's law is not contradictory. Any way you cut it, the answers are always the same. For the most part unless you average out the recurring decimal places.

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08/04/2010 1:48 AM

I humbly suggest you check the original post and ask the moderators of the site to withdraw it so that you can submit a modified question.

???? did you really mean V=I/R ?????

I always though it was V=I*R.

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08/04/2010 2:00 AM

thats a typographical mistake but question of proportionalty still remain same

its not what u always thot

but its wat u r taught

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08/05/2010 1:33 AM

JAE. I think you've pretty well nailed it.

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08/04/2010 3:30 AM

This is so basic and fundamental to all electronics, demonstratable very simply with a few resistors and a PP3.
I think (as a curious cat) that I would have noticed if a global conspiricy was trying to fool me regarding the the most basic relationship in electronics.
I could be wrong (Mrs Cat reliably informs me so on occaision) but I think that after 35+ years in electronics, I'd have noticed if something didn't quite add up.
You could simply apply Occams razor.. is it more likely that you have made a mistake or missunderstood, or that a whole huge global industry which feeds into every walk of life from the airoplane to the washing machine has got it wrong?
You are luck that I'm in a good mood else this reply would have been considerably more scathing.
Back up your argument with a concise worked example, (which you have verified practically) or stop wasting our time.
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08/04/2010 3:50 AM

if u wud have realy wasted ur time in reading abovei have mentioned where the two relations are applicable

where v is directly proportional and where v is inversly proportional to I

no body here said its wrong but its just a contradictory relation

and more over its just a discussion..

u realy waste ur time here

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08/04/2010 4:27 AM

If you took the time to read my profile, look at the contributions I make, maybe even read the number of posts and GAs I've accumulated.
But Nah don't bother, I don't actually care what you think, you have already demonstrated the worth of your thoughts in two virtually identical nonsensical threads.
I'm out.
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08/06/2010 9:00 AM

Not sure what the number of posts and number of GA's have actually got to do with anything - not really sure why you mentioned this. The number of posts simply mean that you have time to spare and decide to waste/spend it on CR4 (personally I like your posts and I happen to agree with your post #4). The GA system has been debated at length and everyone agrees that it is meaningless.

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08/04/2010 4:35 AM

You might like to avoid "Text" speak in your posts as it makes it very difficult to read and comprehend.

There is no financial penalty to writing whole words. It will also help everyone interpret your "English" if you write normally. The spell check function works well. Despite speaking English for over 40 years, I use it all the time to ensure that everyone can understand what I have written.

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08/05/2010 12:23 AM

What language are you writing in? I have tried to find "u", "wud", "realy", "ur" in my dictionaries (English, Spanish and German), and, although I find entries for "u" and "ur", they make no sense in the present context...

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08/04/2010 4:34 AM

its not possible to read every ones profile

but yea every ones comment

and dats my way to know some one

rather than number of posts and articles

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08/04/2010 11:05 PM

Son, you're new here. Don't be a smart&%# until you get some more experience.

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08/05/2010 12:14 AM

grandson

i never knew the right to being smart is with older one

so now i am older than u ...

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08/05/2010 11:24 AM

Er, right. Come bk when yuv demonstrated your superior knowledge to the world so we can all line up to drink of your wisdom... or at least get ur autogrf.

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08/05/2010 12:23 PM

But then he is older than us (Even though he has gathered so much wisdom) do you really expect he will come back/ will be able to give sign autograph with the shaking hands?

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08/04/2010 7:48 AM

OK msmir116,

I'll type this slowly so it's easier to understand.

P is not a proportionality constant. Thus, V is not inversely proportional to I. There is a relationship at constant power, but that is not a proportionality statement.

In any transformer not at saturation, and at constant load, if you increase V, I will increase also.

Textspeak is not an acceptable way to communicate.

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Re: The Relationship Between V and I

08/04/2010 12:00 PM

There is NO contradiction. You are having a conceptual problem and I'll try to provide a clear explanation.

V and I are INDEPENDENT variables.

R = V/I is the DEFINITION of a Resistance

P = V*I is the DEFINITION of electrical Power

These are very simple and basic concepts which you must understand to move forward. Good luck!

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Re: The Relationship Between V and I

08/04/2010 12:53 PM

P,V and I are all variables.

Let us say if there are three variables such that

X = f(Y,Z)

and in addition Y = f(Z) or X = f(Z)

then can you say that X α Y ?

Here also the case is similar

P = V.I

V = I.Z

in addition, to make it more complicated, it is phasor math.

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