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Busduct Question

08/05/2010 7:55 AM

A 1150 volt, 6 phase, 50 Hz, 1600A (max) busduct with copper busbars (150mm x 6.35mm each, 1 no./phase) should be with louvres or without louvres ? Louvres will provide cooling for the busbars while it will cause dirt to accumulate inside, which may result in tracking between the phases. Insects may creep in also. Maintenance will not be possible for this particular application more than once a year. Pl give some suggestions.

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Re: Busduct

08/05/2010 8:05 AM

Off the cuff (caveat emptor), the busbar seems undersized for the current, and is likely to run hot .... how hot is too hot for your application ? You will most likely need louvres. If you want ingress protection, you can provide a perforated sheet behind them. This may prevent insect ingress, not dust-proof though.

All in all, a conflicting requirement. You should use more copper and seal up the thing airtight.

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08/05/2010 8:21 AM

If you feel the busbars are undersized, can you give a rough calculation indicating proper size of busbars for an enclosed arrangement ?

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08/05/2010 9:10 AM

Mr sridhar thnx a lot for sharing nice article

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08/05/2010 9:19 AM

Glad to have been of help. i urge you to study all the ECT papers of Schneider, they are very informative. Siemens, Eaton, Bussmann...many companies have such informative papers.

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08/05/2010 8:17 AM

952.5 sq mm of copper for 1600A is OK i think

your voltage system suggest u must b having good phase to phase and phase to duct body clearance?

so it will also help in cooling

However system fault is also to be kept in mind -MAx short circuit current of system and time as well, like 70KA for 1 sec etc

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Re: Busduct Question

08/05/2010 4:17 PM

I don't normally do this, but a very rough calculation indicates that a 150mm x 6.35mm bus running 1600A continuous should (and I mean should) work with an expected temperature rise of the bus work of 30 degrees C (when referenced to an ambient temperature of 30 degrees C). Your bus work will likely be running at around 60 degrees C or more, so you may need louvres to remove the heat.

This is a guide only and may not be suitable for you due to unknown application-specific requirements that have not been explained here. You will still need to perform a proper analysis yourself.

Depending on the application, louvres fitted with thin metal mesh screens to prevent insect and dirt ingress may be a suitable option.

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Re: Busduct Question

08/06/2010 2:37 AM

I think the busbar size to be revised because current carring capacity is not adequate for the full load (Reff calaculation) .

150 x 6.35 = 952.5 x 1.6 =1524 A

SO The busbar size to be improve to next level and the busduct with louver if not possible please consider sandwitch type busduct with 50kA -1 sec

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08/06/2010 2:47 AM

i think The busbar size to be revised because the size of busbar not adequate at time of full load reff . Below example .

150 x 6.35 = 952.5 x 1.6 = 1524 A

if you consider derating factor the current carring capacity may be reduced and u may be consider louver type , if not possible due to site condition u can consider sandwitch type busduct with 50 kA /1 sec fault condition .

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