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City Wind Load Coefficient Resource

08/11/2010 10:08 AM

I live in the SF Bay area, and because of the nature of the buildings in SF, i anticipate that i will be doing some tilt-up design work. SF has a wind coefficient of 85mph exposure C. Is there an online resource to find any US city's wind load coefficient? thanks, lawrence

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08/11/2010 5:32 PM

Posts like this scare the hell out of me. You are going to do structural design and you don't know where to find wind design velocities.

I hope you will be under the supervision of a PE who knows what he/she is doing.

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08/12/2010 12:47 AM

Passingtongreen, I couldn't agree with you more!

This sort of question keeps rearing it's ugly head every few months or so.

Lawrence, I suggest that you do a search of the CR4 Forum blogs as a starter, followed by a Google Search of ASCE 7-98, then start studying it in detail. When done, consult with your Boss Man or immediate supervisor, who I hope is a qualified structural engineer that is a Licensed Professional Engineer.

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08/12/2010 2:34 AM

Thanks for the feedback... Yes i am a noob and will not be doing any calculations and engineering...but i would like to get this city wind data. When i call different cities i am told the wind coefficient is eg 85mph exposure C. Where do they get this data? Is there a resource i can turn to for US cities? This data is the only thing i am looking for. I have googled ASCE 7-98 and this does not provide me with the input data, is shows only the calculations. thank you for your help, lawrence

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08/12/2010 3:34 AM

I'm not sure it would suffice for codes, but often you can get weather bureau data from local airports that may include wind velocities. I imagine that some statistical analysis would need to be done in order to determine a design wind speed. I haven't worked in this area enough to know the details, so this is just general background.

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08/20/2010 1:57 PM

98? & search the blogs?

Good to see someone Current, Qualified and Able to provide a pertinent answer appeared.

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08/12/2010 2:18 AM

For all we know, the OP might be well versed in structural calculations, but just not happen to know the data source for some calcs of which he/she is perfectly capable.

I am more frightened by smug credentialism. I have seen too many instances in which licensed electricians could not figure out circuits that I could, or PEs that overdesigned the dickens out of cooling systems by including superfluous components, etc.

The bigger they come, the harder they fall--at least sometimes.

I commend the OP for straightforwardly seeking the needed information. If I knew the answer at the moment, I would give it.

(I once searched out some Coast Guard wind load formulas for checking out the design of a shipboard helipad. That was around 1980, so I no longer remember every detail. The wind load was ~100,000 lb; the structure was capable of supporting ~1,000,000 lb, which would more than have capsized the crab boat. A nice bit of overdesign, but at least the excess weight did not endanger the rather large and overstable boat.)

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08/12/2010 12:51 PM

Basic Wind Speed, as defined by ASCE 7, is the nominal design wind speed for a 3-second gust for 33feet above ground for Exposure Category C. Exposure is defined in 6.5.6 of ASCE 7 and is based on the "Surface Roughness" or proximity of the site to obstructions that will modify the wind behavior (or not) from this Basic Wind Speed. For reference, Exposure C generally corresponds to flat open country, grasslands, with scattered obstructions less than 30ft in height, and all water surfaces.

Note that for the west coast (lower 48 only) all three states have the same Basic Wind Speed as SF, except for the shaded areas, for which design values would be given by the authority governing building in that area due to the influence of mountains and the like...

So you can gather this info from either the map above, or from a service such as http://www.windspeedbyzip.com/ (which appears to charge for usage). Values from this or similar sites should still be compared with the ASCE map.

Beyond that the various factors used in ASCE 7 to adjust for topography and exposure are specific to the site (and wind direction), and with the basic wind speed a designer can determine the design pressures on the structure. This should all be carefully considered in the project as suggested by others above.

Hope that helps...
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08/15/2010 3:58 AM

spak--thanks much for your thoughtful answer it is very much appreciated. cheers!

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