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Underground Cable Layout

08/12/2010 6:44 AM

Recently i was assigned to draw a layout of all the underground cables running through our plant and residential area. For some unknown reasons WE DONOT HAVE ANY UNDERGROUND CABLE LAYOUT FOR OUR PLANT and Ive never seen what an underground cable diagram looks like so what i did was draw a couple of boxes (representing the buildings or plant units) and joined them by straight and curvy lines (representing the underground cables). It was OK.

But now what i really want to know is how does an actual underground cable diagram looks like? Ive searched the net and all tech handbooks but couldnt find one; there are Single Line Diagrams, Control diagrams, P&IDs, PFDs but no UG cable diagram!

I would love if anyone provides or gives a link to an actual UG cable layout. Even a sample diagram would suffice if not the original.

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Re: Underground Cable Layout

08/12/2010 8:09 AM

Apparently, since you can't find any, they must not exist. So, here's your chance to establish the baseline for such a drawing.

I like, " boxes (representing the buildings or plant units) and joined them by straight and curvy lines" myself.

Sorta depends on why you need the drawing, doesn't it?

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Re: Underground Cable Layout

08/12/2010 8:57 AM

All of the ones that you mention are schematics not drawn to scale.

But these cannot be used to locate the cables while excavating for maintenance or new construction work. As a result, these cables are going to get ripped apart when such activities are undertaken.

Scaled or "as-built" drawings are being requested. Normally these are red-lined markups of the design drawings noting changes during construction. Should more than one cable exist, the "underground cable drawing" as described would be a compiled plan from all sources at your plant (ie telephone, power, control-signal, etc).

Often these utilities are installed underground based on poor or non-existent plans. Perhaps the cable #1 was installed based only upon the one-line diagram when the plant was new (no conflicts with other utilities). Later on another cable was installed in a similar manner parallel to the first.

But now there are cables running all about and criss-crossing each other and there is no "utility plan". This is going to cause big time problems when the next conduit is run (as nobody knows what or where exactly stuff is buried).

You have been asked to come up with this plan.

This will be a scaled drawing. If you have AutoCad, I suggest you put each utility in a separate layer. For a pen and ink drawing, this could get really messy.

In transitioning from a one-line to a real plan with no information, use the structures on grade (manholes, pull-boxes, utility poles) as a window to what is below-ground. Then connect the dots.

Sometimes cables can be located with a metal detector.

Your buildings can be measured accurately and plotted to be used as reference points for the maze of conduits and pipes that lurk below grade.

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08/12/2010 10:45 AM

On the farm, we use photographs taken from planes and mark them with EXACT locations of Fiber Optic lines, natural gas mains, Phone lines, drainage tile grids, etc. in our fields. One mistake with a deep earth sub soiler could cause millions of dollars of damage in less than a second. The hand drawn maps leave contours and other landmarks out that the pictures catch every time. Also, with a picture, there is no room for a mistake in scale either.

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08/12/2010 12:39 PM

And if you don't know exactly where the underground cables run, then you need to get the services of someone who performs underground facilities locating in your area. They will have appropriate equipment which works by detecting an RF signal injected on the metallic cable, conduit, or pipe they are tracing. They usually mark it out on the ground surface using little flags or spray marking paint.

From there you can take measurements and transfer to a scaled drawing of your facility property, to get a permanent record. In the future, when any new cables or other underground facilities are added, just edit your drawing.

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08/13/2010 12:26 AM

I have been doing underground cable projects for the last 25 years. there are no perticular layout for the u/g cables.

you can develop a legend showing different line styles for the different voltages or different cables for different services

the drawing on which you are marking the cables should be geographically real and to the scale.

indicate the route of cable with actual measurements from the nearest permanant structures.

you can also indicate the depth of burial if available.

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08/13/2010 5:34 AM

I would like to add the following tips for developing a proper Cable Layout Drawing:

1.Make a complete list of cables to be laid in atabular form clearly defining the source & destination equipment/device,route,type,size,estimated length etc.

2.Each cable should be allocated with a unique tag No.

3.Make aEquipment Lay out Drg. Drawn to scale showing the location of each eqpt./Switchgear panel boards.

4.Mark the Cable route between the source and destination eqpt./device .Identify the cables which can be laid partly together ina common trench.

5.Mark the cable tag Nos. of each cable at the origin & destination points as well as at regular itervals along the route.

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Re: Underground Cable Layout

08/17/2010 3:03 PM

Thanks for the suggestion people. But it is very surprising to know that no Standard U/G Cable diagram exists. I thought there would. Very surprising indeed!

Actaully we required the drawings because digging and cable laying is carried out quite frequently in our residential area as new buildings/ porta cabins are being added. To provide them with electrical power, new cables need to be layed. So to avoid any damage to previous cables, we needed the drawing.

I made my drawing in excel (we dont have AUTCAD) roughly to scale and instead of drawing each cable I sort of represented the marked route through which the cables have been most likely to be layed from the switchgear room to the indivisual buildings. Most of this has been done by assumptions; by searching damaged cable markers, looking for hints of backfilling and observing the position of main breaker panels on the walls of the individual buildings.

Overall it wasnt much techyy, but it works nonetheless. Next time i'll keep in mind the valuables sugesstion poured out. Thanx.

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