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Heating of the Rtd Wire Leads

09/21/2010 3:46 AM

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I'm working on a temporary fixture that will use an RTD to measure the temperature of a flat surface. The design might allow for the wires to the RTD to heat up to about 300F. Will this effect the performance/accuracy of the RTD significantly?

Any insight will be helpful.

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Re: Heating of the RTD Wire Leads

09/21/2010 8:12 AM

It should be OK with a 4-wire RTD. The excitation will be driven by a constant current source, so changes in the resistance of those wires won't change the current through the sensing element, and there will only be a minute current flowing in the sensing wires, so again, changes in the resistance shouldn't affect the result significantly.

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09/21/2010 8:38 AM

What's the instrument you're using to monitor the RTD? Transmitters are available to convert the signal to a 4-20 for instance. Just a thought.

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Re: Heating of the Rtd Wire Leads

09/22/2010 2:24 AM

I'm currently in the design phase and don't have any equipment in mind. However, I do have another questions.

The RTD is not fixed to the surface that it is measuring; contact will be done with slight pressure and no thermal conductive epoxy between the RTD and measured surface will be used. Can I expect accurate results?

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Re: Heating of the RTD Wire Leads

09/22/2010 3:34 AM

You need the RTD to be in thermal equilibrium with the surface - that's a fancy way of saying "at the same temperature as ...".

Can you arrange for any insulation (glass wool etc) over the RTD? You should get reasonable results if you do. Alternatively, how about heat sink compound between the RTD and the surface? You don't need epoxy, and the compound will wipe off most hard surfaces without marking.

Out of interest, what is the surface material?

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09/22/2010 8:30 AM

For good thermal contact, I would recomend Omegatherm 201. Its a paste that stays soft and is easily removed after you are done. Have you considered doing a calibration of the system once you have it up and running? There are super accurate infrared type no contact meauring devices that can verify what your RTD is telling you.

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Re: Heating of the Rtd Wire Leads

09/22/2010 7:52 PM

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The temp of 300F is well within the service range of the RTD alloys. You will want to ensure that any insulation on the wires is not deteriorated by this temperature. That is about 150°C, so look for a suitable insulation. I would be very skeptical about claims for accurate infrared temperature measurements, because of how dependent they are on the surface emissivity. The suggestions by others about a little insulation over the point of contact and possibly using a conductive paste are all valid. If you need speed and are using an automatic means of collecting the data, it is possible to do a prediction of the ultimate equilibrium temperature based on the rate of temperature change of the RTD. (This is the method used for rapid measurement of the temperature of humans using a sensor pointing into the ear for a few seconds.)

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