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Need Polyurethane Deadener

03/20/2007 2:41 PM

I am looking for a commercial, liquid, sound damping/vibration control material for application between two male/female fiberglass components.


The material could be described as an extremely dense polyurethane that maintains a rubber consistency after setting up.

The area of application cannot be reached directly for the placement of a mat.

Products similar to what I am looking for are used in the manufacture of automobiles as a sound deadener, where the rubber-like material is pumped into the automotive frame. I would like to pump the material into the area where it is to permanently reside.

The material will be approximately one inch thick and needs to cure in place between the two housings.

Do you know what material/manufacturer I should be looking for? Do you have a URL/link to the website?

Thanks.

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Re: Need Polyurethane Deadener

03/20/2007 6:34 PM

There is a material called VINAMOULD which is used in the fibreglass industry to make low volume moulds. You heat the chippings and it becomes liguid enough to pour into or onto a mould to make a mould for a GRP product.

Once cooled it is rubbery - there are different grades of stiffness - so that a complex product can be removed.

On heating it melts again.

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Re: Need Polyurethane Deadener

03/21/2007 8:14 AM

Perhaps this material?

http://www.sorbothane.com/

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Re: Need Polyurethane Deadener

03/21/2007 3:14 PM

Sorbothane looks great! I forgot about Sorbothane. The only problem that I have with the Sorbothane product is that I would probably have to enter into a contract with Sorbothane for a minimum run of parts, and the parts would require me to be able to insert the Sorbothane between the male and female parts, which I am not sure that I could at this time. I haven't made the molds yet and I was looking for the ability to pour or pump the "product" in between the male and female components, into the void. Thanks. I will keep this product in mind.

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Re: Need Polyurethane Deadener

03/21/2007 9:24 AM

I would suggest your best bet would be a microcellular PU foam, where you could adjust the density to whatever meets your sound deadening criteria. Use a meter-mix machine to mix and dispense the foam. You'd have to select from polyether-, polyester- or polycarbonate based PUs, depending on hydrolysis, thermal and physical property needs. You might also try to get some data on available commercial systems for automotive sound-deadening naterials from manufacturers such as Huntsman, or structural engineers at places like Magna International or Ashland. Solids filled liquids are also used for sound deadening.

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Re: Need Polyurethane Deadener

03/21/2007 10:29 AM

The microcellular idea is a good one. I could also suggest such products as Smooth-On, who has a web sight.

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Re: Need Polyurethane Deadener

03/21/2007 3:38 PM

Thanks for all of the ideas. Just to let you know I have done some homework too, and I think its only fair to tell you about the effort on my end. I do not know how much the materials will cost in the amounts needed...gallons. The products that I found were: (1) Daubert V-Damp http://www.daubertchemical.com/main.taf?p=3,4 The only problem is the Daubert product is for metals and I do not know if it works well with fiberglass. (2) Green Glue http://www.greengluecompany.com/soundproofingDampingOptions.php (3) Epoxy.com Elastomeric Coatings and Membranes http://www.epoxysystems.com/elastomeric.htm (4) Techthane Elastomers Technical Urethanes http://www.polyurethane.com/ (5) Solid Solutions Polyurethane Systems http://www.solidsolutions.com.au/view_products.php?cat=Polyurethane%20flex%20exp (6) E-A-R Specialty Composites Isoloss® HDF Polyurethane Elastomer http://www.matweb.com/search/SpecificMaterial.asp?bassnum=PEARC24 (7) there was a number 7, I cannot find it anymore. It was a coating for concrete that was also a rubber/polyurethane compound.

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