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Reliable Glue Needed

11/20/2010 10:45 AM

Dear CR4's

I'm looking for reliable glue to hold two aluminium pieces together.

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Re: Reliable glue needed

11/20/2010 11:16 AM

Sigh.

I am really getting very tired of these incompetent questions from anonymous people. I will again post here the pertinent CR4 FAQ that you've obviously ignored.

  • Provide as much information as possible. The most frustrating questions on this site are like this: "I need a sensor to test water flow - which is the best one." What are you testing for, what are you trying to determine? Is it in a stream, a pipe, an aquifer? Are you looking to measure velocity or mass? Are you testing for particulates, mineral concentration or pollution? Is it wastewater, potable water, slurry, etc.? The more you let us know, the better the chance that someone on the site will be able to help you find an answer (thanks Silas Marner).

With the information you've provided, I decided to borrow the Car Talk Roulette Wheel of Automotive Misfortune to provide an answer.

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You need to change your alternator. You almost needed a new transmission.

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Re: Reliable Glue Needed

11/20/2010 11:57 AM

I'm sorry for lack of information, the two aluminium pieces have 1 inch width and 1/8 inch thick , and will carry about 20 pound load.

I know it is better to rivet them together but because of their location it is impossible .

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11/20/2010 1:16 PM

More important than selection of adhesive is surface preparation.

Buy the slowest setting two part epoxy you can find. Get it ready for use according to the instructions, but don't mix it yet.

Using 120 grit sandpaper, roughen both surfaces completely, down to bare Al. Thoroughly clean with solvent such as acetone or, at least alcohol. Mix adhesive and apply a thin layer to both surfaces. Join and clamp with a spring clamp. Remove squeeze out, let cure at room temperature or 150F max for 4 hours, or per instructions.

Oxides form on Al immediately after abrading, so that's why it's important to coat with adhesive as soon as practical. Oxides don't bond well.

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11/20/2010 2:02 PM

That is all fine, but what kind of the adhesive you talking about, that is exactly the same as teaching me how to cook and no food to cook ?

Zaghlool

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11/20/2010 2:36 PM
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11/20/2010 4:17 PM

Lynlynch earned a GA for a sound recommendation on how to epoxy two pieces of aluminum together. Do you really need the brand name that you'll find at your local bodega? If you work with us we can help you help yourself.

My only concerns with using epoxy is how much of an overlap your two pieces of sheet metal will contain glue, the more overlap the stronger joint. Also if there will be any flexing from vibrations then a rigid glue like epoxy might fail sooner than you like.

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11/20/2010 9:57 PM

Redfred,don't give much concern about GA marks, actually most of it are exchanged between friends on the site, just say about you have from information with no concern about GA marks.

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11/20/2010 3:54 PM

A GA to ya! Almost any epoxy will hold 20 pounds if you clean the surfaces first and clamp the dickens out of the joint.

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11/20/2010 4:03 PM

In a former life, I assembled literally thousands of aluminum tensile shear adhesive test specimens. We could get 2,500 PSI of tensile strength out of good two part epoxies.

As long as the joint isn't in peel the OP should be fine.

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11/20/2010 5:04 PM

I was doing some Lexan assemblies a while back and bought some really stinky epoxy off GE - it smelled like old lizard feet. So, I picked up a piece of scrap aluminum to use as a mortar board. Didn't clean it or anything. I laid it on top of another piece so that I wouldn't drip onto the bench and did my work. I didn't clean up that evening as it was late. Next morning enough had run down between the two pieces of aluminum that I couldn't get them apart even with a hammer. That made a believer of me.

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11/20/2010 10:18 PM

"In a former life" ?

There is no former life, but there is future life and will never be on the earth again.

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11/20/2010 10:21 PM

So you think that you will be stuck doing the same thing for all of your life. How sad.

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11/20/2010 10:30 PM

No,it is one life on the earth but with different variety of careers,though it is better to stuck with one career.

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11/20/2010 10:58 PM

How narrow and boring. So far I've had at least seven lives so far on this Earth, the life of a child, student, loner, lover, husband, technician and engineer. Only two of those could be considered careers, but they were all separate distinct lives. (Not always with clear demarcations.) I would find life oh so boring to have only one of these lives.

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11/20/2010 10:28 PM

I suggest that you get a life. You're obviously devoid of one now.

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11/20/2010 10:34 PM

See my reply in post #14.

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11/21/2010 7:55 AM

Methinks "Guest" suffers from the dread, "I am the center of the universe. Everything I think and say is deep and significant." disease.

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11/21/2010 10:23 AM

While reading through some of these threads, it's sometimes is hard to tell one guest from another guest.

Similar to hosting a small intimate party with people with similar interest and/or differing insights, together with a sensible sense of humour thrown in at appropriate times within the course of bantering, that you've invited over.

Then, all of a sudden, the party is 'crashed' by a one or more uninvited "guests" that you don't know, and whose only wish is to cause disruption and try to ruin the get together.

I think that the OP 'guest' (Zaghlool as reply #4), is not the same 'guest' as entered into the fray at #11, as the OP had a legit question, albeit could have been phrased better. self-censored as off-topic

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11/21/2010 12:45 PM

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11/21/2010 1:00 PM

I think your answer is fine. It certainly answered the OP directly and would do the job well.

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11/22/2010 11:06 AM

Depending on temperature and surface preparation, cyanoacrylate (those super glues...) should work just fine.

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