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Recycling Plastic Waste

11/28/2010 9:17 AM

It is too hard to believe this video: http://www.flixxy.com/convert-plastic-to-oil.htm

Is deriving oil from plastic waste so simple and straightforward?

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11/28/2010 9:40 AM

I'd have to say that's a gross oversimplification. Especially the part about getting from an egg crate to a liter of gasoline. You can't do that with the single device shown here.

And I'm skeptical about power consumption and personal safety. The products of decomposition of thermoplastics are toxic. I wouldn't want one of these in my garage.

Maybe for developing countries, on a somewhat larger scale.

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11/28/2010 10:36 AM

More details http://www.rexresearch.com/ito/ito.htm

Be interesting to see the energy balance on the thing.

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11/28/2010 12:33 PM

At least it's a start in the right direction and it shows that some people are seriously thinking about it. But, like previously mentioned, the efficiencies have to be considered as well.

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12/01/2010 9:42 PM

What about engaging in the micro-biotic sphere.

At the old 'INCO' Lab company where I used to work, as an electrician, we set up a part of a lab in the fume hood to develop an atmosphere where certain selected microbes that were partial to 'eating', digesting, processing, and in their final 'act', before they perished and became further microbe ' foodstuffs', actually shat out deposits of minerals that chemical interactions previously used were frowned upon, due to their environmental impact (EI).

The results were minerals that could be processed further in the cycle, without the need for chemical leaching; (meaning cyanide, sulfuric acid compounds, arsenic, etc. were removed from the cycle, or outright eliminated, or at the least - minimised).

All we had to maintain was an 45% oxygen atmosphere level @ 54.3 Degrees C. and a relatively constant whisper 5% feed of nitrous oxide and 'fuel/food' which was the untouched (raw) ore of nickel concentrate. (28% nickel content after primary processing). The process does prove itself out to be a feasible industrial process, however this has to be scaled way up, in order to be economically feasible on a large global platform, to supply the present and future world's needs for such metals and minerals.

Therefore it's only very obvious that microbes are soon to be found within the natural envelope of the earth's bounty, that can biologically ingest and process the hydrocarbons that constitute the majority of the 'plastic' containers that the world has been inundated with, within the last 25 years or so.

So, in conclusion, think about the bugs - they are EVERYWHERE!!! (microbiology is the future - get used to it). - Loupy.

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12/02/2010 9:32 PM

First you have to evaluate the source, The United Nations. They are the bar flies from the movie Star Wars. They are the biggest bunch of dysfunctional, lying, misinformation idiots on the planet. They have no credibility!

All that I see is the process of distilling, releasing the oil from the plastic (polymers). Oil that was not consumed in the making of the plastic along with the injected oil in make the plastic more pliable.

In the video he didn't show you what was left over. And I am sure he subtracted it's mass from the original donor plastic's mass.

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01/20/2011 12:13 AM

That's very interesting. It's the only process besides http://www.byfusion.net/home.html that I've seen where all kinds of plastic trash is put into a machine and something useful comes out.

Of course that process has the same problems Byfusion has, inefficiencies.

The first thing is those number one through three plastics he was sticking in his machine is worth a thousand dollars per ton cleaned and ground into shavings. There's no way he's going to convert a pound of his plastic into fifty cents worth of fuel.

The Byfusion block if it's made with the good plastics (defined as number 1 through 3 that are in demand for raw material for making new plastic) $3.50 worth of raw material to make a block It also uses one kilowat of electricity. Add the cost of the machinery, labor to operate the machinery, etc and you get a pretty expensive block.

I see his fuel machine as the same thing. The only way it makes cents is the feel good we get from recycling.

Of course I have a better idea. http://www.recycledplasticblockhouses.com

But you already knew that. ;>)

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01/20/2011 9:08 AM

Sounds good...

How about adding shredded plastic waste to concrete mix? Does it add any merit? Bigger pieces might separate the mass into layers, how about shredding the waste into smaller pieces? How about warping the shape by heat such that individual piece gets some irregular shape and act as bidding media?

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01/20/2011 9:33 AM

Adding the plastic to the concrete is being done, however, it's the desirable plastic that's best for that. That's extremely inefficient, dollars per ton for aggregate versus fifty to sixty cents a pound for granulated plastic bulk material.

The heat adds complexity to the simplest of processes. It also adds carbon consumption if the process is carbon fuel based.

For me the recycled plastic block can be compared finding out the most beautiful woman in the world is smart, she can cook, and she's gonna be a wonderful parent.

The blocks are easier to make with the plastics that are the most difficult to process in conventional recycling. That encourages the sorting of the plastics so the valuable for conventional recycling plastics can generate income to offset the costs of the blocks.

The block making process isn't just about making building blocks from the cheapest material available in bulk. It's also about generating income by funneling some of the material into another process.

It also diverts pressure from conventional construction processes. It replaces concrete in block construction. It does the same thing for metal and wood construction industries.

It's perfect for cottage industry. The blocks are light in weight so single parent women can become entrepeneurs with a manual machine by producing building blocks for contractors or charity groups. Instead of building a factory for processing recycled plastic and providing A or B amounts of jobs this process can provide many more jobs by initiating vertical commerce. The person that finds and markets the raw material to the entrepeneur with the machine can hopefully some day afford to have a house made with the blocks.

It's a bubble up instead of trickle down business concept.

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01/21/2011 6:36 AM

Are you aware of fiber reinforced concrete?

And we have done this whole thread before.

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01/21/2011 7:50 AM

I don't think so.

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01/21/2011 8:18 AM

Sorry for the snarky reply.

If you have been through this before I would sure like to read the thread, maybe you can help me out.

I have a ton of time and effort in this. If I'm duplicating someone else's stuff then I have much better things to do.

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08/11/2012 4:46 AM

Well, its very interesting topic for getting Recycling Plastic Waste. As I am searching for the industrial recycling service grand rapids as for getting their rental services. My friend suggested me for these kind of service provider and now looking to hire them. Thanks

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12/01/2012 5:00 AM

Recycle plastic waste is a very nice idea. Through this technology we can able to reuse things in a same way. Because plastic waste are extreme hazardous for all.Some people burn it or some throw it anywhere and then it harms furtile soil. As well as it harms animals also. So this technique should be take in to attention.

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