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Frequent Bearing Failures, Within 24 Hrs

12/06/2010 11:10 PM

Our sander unit bearings are failing within 24 hrs , these sanders are run by robots , and almost every day needto change bearing of sanders , we know bearing are failing because of lot of heat is produced during sanding process , I am looking for some solutions , these bearing are very small . 6002 , we tried different kind of bearings , any body has any solution or idea how we can improve in this area .Is there any special bearing which can run in extreem heat and load conditions? Or is there way we keep our bearing cool.

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Re: frequent bearing failures , within 24 hrs

12/06/2010 11:42 PM

Change from grease lubrication to oil lubrication (static or circulating) is one of the remedy; please refer to the following or similar links at www.google.com

http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/262/grease-to-oil-lubricated

Look into the possibility of larger sized bearings to be installed in place of smaller ones or to support the original smaller ones.

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Re: Frequent Bearing Failures, Within 24 Hrs

12/07/2010 8:01 AM

Have you tried hybrid bearings. They can handle higher loads. The ceramic balls are not effected by heat as much as the steel balls. They also are not effected as much by changing conditions of the lubricant.

I would also look at some of the settings on the robotics. You may have them exceeding the load the tool was designed for.

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Re: Frequent Bearing Failures, Within 24 Hrs

12/07/2010 9:44 AM

You need to get to the root cause of the failure. I'll throw out some things to consider.

Is the heat transmitted to the bearings from the surroundings or do the bearings themselves operate at an elevated temperature that causes the failure? The solution may be quite different depending on the source of excess thermal energy. Keep in mind the elevated temperatures you are seeing may be the result of the failure and not actually the failure mode.

If bearing temperature is the problem, two possibilities are: The seals temperature is being exceeded and the lubricant runs out. A seal material change may fix that problem. Another possibility is the proper grease operating temperature is being exceeded so that it quits lubricating properly or runs out. A higher temperature grease may fix that problem.

The root cause may be due to the abrasive media that is inundating the bearing. That could cause premature seal failure which leads to bearing failure. Some possibilities to resolve this would be: change to bearings that have more abrasive resistant seals or add shields that keep the abrasive from blasting directly onto the seals.

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12/07/2010 11:21 PM

When you say "you know they are failing because of heat" this suggests that you've done the basic speed and load calculations for bearing life. As you may know bearing life goes down as the cube of actual over reference load capacity, and inversely as speed.

The other main possible causes could include "dust" (unlikely if bearings are sealed) and "inappropriate loads". For example, high thrust loads on a bearing that is intended for radial loads.

Bearing technology is one of the more mature technologies in engineering and it is unlikely that your problem is more complicated than operating outside the specified limits for the bearing your are using.

So to that end - what temperature are your bearings operating at ?

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Re: Frequent Bearing Failures, Within 24 Hrs

12/08/2010 12:34 AM

3 options.

1. Bearing ratings....

2. Upgrades.

3. Workarounds.

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Re: Frequent Bearing Failures, Within 24 Hrs

12/08/2010 12:47 AM

SOLUTION:

You must inform the manufacturer of "sander". If he doesn't want to help you or the cost is prohibitory or there are not manufacturer please try to upload the drawing of application or sketch with bearing placement. I think in this site there are many experts which can help you. All the rests follow.

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Re: Frequent Bearing Failures, Within 24 Hrs

12/08/2010 4:03 AM

High temperature bearings are an on going discussion and all things being taken into consideration to give the final synopsis of a "bearing issue". If this is assured what the problem is a ceramic bearing will hold to great heat expectations, then yet, the adjoining shafts that the bearings ride on, or interlocking pieces must have the appropriate characteristics of needed strength, temperature, force and all things involved with the rotation.

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12/08/2010 4:31 AM

If the problem is caused by either heat or abrasive it would be assisted by a compressed air feed supplied locally to the bearing. The large particulates released by the grinding process are not going to be the problem, it is only the fines that will get into the bearing. Creating a high pressure zone adjacent to the bearing should keep these away and carry away any excess heat. If a vacuum removal system is fitted, upgrading this should also help.

This is on a robot so you have to keep the weight of any solution as low as possible. Use polypropylene pipe for flexibility, high pressure air to reduce the bore. jet nozzles to direct the air flow. Positioning of the nozzles is critical, find a way of using temporary clamps until you have a configuration that works. Don't abandon if at first the problem gets worse. If you can change the characteristics at all, you must be on the correct track, you just have the nozzles incorrectly positioned.

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Nozzles that produce a wide flat blade of air flow will probably work better.

A full size plastic plate mounted 0.5mm to 1.5mm away from the face of the bearings and fed at the centre with air would create a 360 degree nozzle.

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12/08/2010 5:40 AM

Here is a link to some good info on types of bearings.Perhaps this will help you decide if you have the right type for your application.

Off hand, without more info on your application and conditions, it sounds like you may need a sealed and shielded bearing,which excludes contaminates and keeps grease in.

http://www.wwdmag.com/how-grease-lubricated-bearings-function-article4043

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Re: Frequent Bearing Failures, Within 24 Hrs

12/08/2010 9:29 AM

Pop the bearing apart. Your failure mode is suggesting something obvious. Either a lack of lubricant or the presence of abrasive material, it's impossible for me to say at the moment. If you don't think you can get the bearing apart using simple hand tools take a cutting wheel to it. Don't try to use a hacksaw or other implement as you'll only succeed in dulling the blade. Bearings destroyed in 24 hours is very unusual. I'm guessing you will find the culprit inside the bearing. Are you using roller bearings or ball bearings? In this application I would think you need ball bearings to handle the varying load vectors and high speeds. If you're using roller bearings that would also be a clue as to the failure timescale and mode. Typical roller bearings are very good with radial loads, not so much with axial and transient moment loads, which i think your sander would see. So just double check you didn't make a mistake installing them. If you want more help i am available free of charge. I work as a bearing engineer for the aerospace industry. I thought of one more thing, I doubt it would cause such an immediate failure, but check to see if you're getting any static or electric discharge of any kind. Current will cause spot welding as the bearing rotates (even a small amount of current) and will cause the bearing to fail. The damage is called fluting and it's easily identifiable if you can catch it before the bearing fails. I doubt this is causing your problem, but who knows. If you want more help we can certainly narrow this down. It's a simple enough problem if they're failing so quickly. I noticed a lot of good replies. Good luck and you need more help I will be checking this forum as i'm sure others will be.

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Re: Frequent Bearing Failures, Within 24 Hrs

12/08/2010 7:47 PM

Thank you very much for your help ful comments , this bearing is a small bearing 6002 , speed is not very high , we use air motor to operate this grinder , this bearing goes in that air grinder , if you can give me direct email ,my email add is iamajit@gmail.com i can send you some photo graphs , but i know temp goes very high because of grinding (sanding ) sanding means we use sand paper pad to to finish our products , this sand paper pads rotates , and goes around the product

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Re: Frequent Bearing Failures, Within 24 Hrs

12/08/2010 9:42 AM

Check the fit of the bearing. If it's a press fit which I assume it is, it my be to tight and the bearing is in an overloaded condition before you even start the sander.

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Re: Frequent Bearing Failures, Within 24 Hrs

12/08/2010 9:54 AM

Try an ExAir spot cooler. www.exair.com I may also look at static build upon the belt/bearing. I have seen bearings fail because a charge was being discharged through them to ground, You could also look at using a high end lubricant like Krytox.

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Re: Frequent Bearing Failures, Within 24 Hrs

12/08/2010 9:56 AM

When you talk of sanders, there are two kinds of load conditions on the bearing.

1. It should accommodate high rpm and

2. Also should be able to absorb thrust loads applied.

Deep groove ball bearing 6002 (15x32x9mm) is more suitable for high rpm (22000 in grease and 28000 in oil) and its fatigue load limit is just 120N. I suspect the robots are applying more pressure than this leading to failure of bearing. You may correct that or if there is a possibility to modify bearing housing, you may opt for an angular contact bearing 7202 (15x35x11mm) suitable for rpm 17000 in grease and 24000 in oil with a fatigue load limit of 204N.

Your options in order of preference could be:

1. Correct the pressure applied by the robots.

2. Talk to the sander manufacturer and if required, change to correct sander designed for such applications or,

3. Modify the bearing housing as suggested above but be careful to understand the mechanics of angular contact bearing and assemble accordingly.

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Re: Frequent Bearing Failures, Within 24 Hrs

12/08/2010 1:23 PM

Have you contacted the bearing manufacturer?

Try http://www.skf.com/portal/skf/home.

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12/08/2010 1:32 PM

http://www.vxb.com/page/bearings/PROD/Kit7782

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Re: Frequent Bearing Failures, Within 24 Hrs

12/08/2010 7:49 PM

it depends the kind of bearin you are using. Open bearing or seal bearing. it shuld use seal bearings for the appropiate speed. If these parameter are used then another way to void this problem is to see if case where tese bearing seat can be modified so it can be cold by water.

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