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Seismic Anchorage

12/27/2010 7:07 AM

During a recent inspection of sprinkler piping I question the engineer for the use of Drop-In anchors in a seismic C design. These are the anchors you pre drill a hole in concrete and install using a threaded rod for support. Per Hilti ICC-ES report the anchors are not approved for seismic or use in cracked concrete. I understand the seismic bracing (1" pipe) and anchors are different however it is installed as a system and the bracing does not provide support.

Question 1 to engineer- Does the anchor meet ACI 355.2 Appendix D which comes from the IBC concrete anchorage chapter 17. His reply was not required to meet ACI 355.2 because of seismic C.

My next question #2- to him was because of sprinkler piping the Ip is 1.5 would this not make a difference. His reply the Ip would not change anything.

I'm not sure if I believe his answers. All fire protection engineers allow the use of drop in anchors, I have several jobs in a seismic D as well but all engineers disagree with me on the anchors.

#3- I am under the impression all concrete is cracked concrete unless design not to be. Most of my jobs are not structural slabs 2.1 wire in most cases.

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Re: Seismic Anchorage

12/27/2010 11:41 PM

I retired from a job where we used concrete anchors under seismic conditions. Trouble is, I don't remember the details. Also, it was impossible to tell where concrete joints would be, so we sort of ignored that. There were wedge type anchors and epoxy anchors. There were several brands besides Hilti. The ICC-ES reports give allowable pull-out values. The manufacturer's values were usually more optimistic, but couldn't be used. The use under seismic conditions may have been covered by one of the exceptions, so read them carefully. In our situation gravity loads counteracted the seismic pull-out loads, and many times were greater in magnitude, so the seismic condition did not control anyway.

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