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Inron Loss and Full Load Copper Loss for Transformers

01/03/2011 2:13 AM

Dear All,

Wish you all a very happy and prosperous New Year 2011.

I have one query -

Could you kindly let me know the rated Core Loss and Full Load Copper Loss for the following rating of transformers -

1. 7500 KVA,

2. 3000 KVA,

3. 2000 KVA,

4. 1500 KVA

Your suggestions will be highly appreciated

Regards,

Rooney

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Re: Inron Loss and Full Load Copper Loss for Transformers

01/03/2011 4:05 AM

The best thing to do is ring the manufacturer when his offices re-open after the New Year holidays.

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Re: Inron Loss and Full Load Copper Loss for Transformers

01/03/2011 6:56 AM

My ancient textbook gives examples of (50Hz) :-

  1. 1000 kVA 3 phase 6.6/0.44 kV Copper loss 6.6 kW a 75 Celsius copper temperature, Iron loss 3.7 kW Full LOad. Hence Efficiency ~99%.
  2. 15000 kVA, 3 phase 33/6.6 kV Copper loss 99 kW a 75 Celsius copper temperature, Iron loss 26 kW Full Load. Hence Efficiency ~99.2%.

But single phase will be worse and low voltage/high current worse efficiency. In practice, copper temperature will depend on ambient and previous loading. Application where load % is typically low will emphasize low core loss over low copper loss because core loss is 24 hour/day cost for supplier.

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Re: Inron Loss and Full Load Copper Loss for Transformers

01/04/2011 1:15 AM

THIS IS AVAILABLE IN THE MANUFACTURERS DATASHEET.

HOWEVER IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TREND FOR THE BEST MANUFACTURERS THE NO LOAD LOSSES SHALL BE LESS THAN 1%,AND THE TOTAL LOSSES ARE A TRADE OF BETWEEN THE PRICES BETWEEN THE GOOD AND BAD MANUFACTURER.THE END USER HAS TO COMPARE THE COST REDUCTION VERSES LOSSES IN ENERGY FOR THE ENTIRE LIFESPAN OF THE TRANSFORMER .

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Re: Inron Loss and Full Load Copper Loss for Transformers

01/04/2011 1:53 AM

Please refer AC machines by MG SAY. It gives the complete procedure

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Re: Inron Loss and Full Load Copper Loss for Transformers

01/04/2011 10:50 AM

There is no such thing as RATED, . . or STANDARD loss for power transformers.

Each manufacturer will provide numbers on losses for his transformers, . . . and even these will vary according to application.

Losses will also depend on the transformer cooling - "dry type" or "liquid immersed" . .

HOWEVER, the US DOE Rule suggests efficiencies:

1,500 kVA - 99.14% - dry type, 99.42% - oil immersed.

2,500 kVA - 99.31% - dry type, 99.49% - oil immersed.

No numbers provided for transformers above 2,500 kVA.

Oleh

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Re: Inron Loss and Full Load Copper Loss for Transformers

01/04/2011 12:54 PM

Go to the Data Sheet of the items

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