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Fire Alarm Smoke Layout for Industrial Ceiling

01/06/2011 2:41 PM

4 days into a EIT and I need some guidance, I should warn you all that I will be on here asking tons of questions. You guys are just too much fun :)

I need to design the smoke detector layout for an industrial ceiling of a production hoist. Now I have chosen the equipment that I will be using but need some clarification with respects to the fact that there are some 24-36" I beams running around and are "boxing" areas. Should I begin to consider each boxed area as a seperate area. These beams will restrict horizantel movement of the smoke.

My issues I need some kind of documentation , math, etc to calculate, using a Edwards 3D model.

PS: I am in the great north, Canadian refrences needed.

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Smoke Detector Layout for Industrial Ceiling

01/06/2011 3:05 PM

Can you get your hands on a copy of NFPA 72? That should be informative.

Not certain, but I think all of The Great White North follows NFPA.

You have selected equipment already?

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Re: Fire Alarm Smoke Layout foir Industrial Ceiling

01/06/2011 3:25 PM

If you've lots of questions to ask I'm afraid you've got a lot of reading to do!
Given your attitude in past postings how can you expect anyone to go out of their way to do your work for you?

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Re: Fire Alarm Smoke Layout foir Industrial Ceiling

01/06/2011 3:39 PM

Sorry Tony, thats wasn't my thought. More of a guiding hand. Sorry to offend you. God bless

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Re: Fire Alarm Smoke Layout for Industrial Ceiling

01/07/2011 1:46 AM

I like your thinking. I don't know whether the various fire codes address the trapping of smoke in "pockets" such that it could accumulate without being detected by a sensor one or more "pockets" removed. Interesting question.

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Re: Fire Alarm Smoke Layout for Industrial Ceiling

01/07/2011 9:27 AM

I found an answer in CAN/ULC S524-6

Simplified if the "I" beam is greater then x depth from the ceiling, each pocket acts as a seperate zone for smoke detectors except if it is less then x depth, at the point derating on spacing must occur to compensate.

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Re: Fire Alarm Smoke Layout for Industrial Ceiling

01/07/2011 2:06 PM

contact the manufactor of your smoke or heat detector. they have engineres that will tell you by E-mail or by mail of where and how many. if not, try other manufactors or a local fire alarm company who will design, install and make the insurance company happy that a handy many did not do it. local fire building codes will give you information needed. buy the fire code book for commucial building. your beams are so far down from the ceiling, i believe that, yes one in each box. how long are they that more thab one might be needed? hot spots, smoke, etc. have to be factored in. there are dectors if the heat rises to fast, fire. others that look for smoke, some a set temp.

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