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Steam Pressure

01/13/2011 11:54 PM

We are using steam for different process purpose, and steam generated by gas fired boiler. Boiler maximum working pressure is 10 bar but as all the machines required pressure not more then 5 bar that's why we run the boiler in between 0-6 bar.

Few days ago one of the visitor came in our plant and suggest us to run the boiler at around 8 bar and that will save our energy, my question is what are the logic of his suggestion?

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Re: Steam Pressure

01/14/2011 2:15 AM

I don't think there is going to be energy/fuel savings. On the contrary it may go up but certainly not much. Check the enthalpy difference between 6 bars and 8 bars, and you will find it not much.

But I will agree to the suggestion, it does not look good operating your boiler way below the design pressure. The quality of steam will suffer. I will not definitely put the range at 0-6 bars. Running it at 6-7.5 bars maybe a good range.

There are proven other boiler savings work that you can pursue like economizers, burner calibration, condensate return, trap maintenance, excellent water treatment, etc, etc.

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01/14/2011 3:48 AM

We do burner calibration, and we have condensate return, good maintenance of moisture trap & excellent water treatment.

CAN YOU explain "ON THE CONTRARY IT MAY GO UP BUT CERTAINLY NOT MUCH?"

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Re: Steam Pressure

01/14/2011 5:33 AM

The hotter the steam is as it leaves the boiler, the less of it will appear in the condensate return before it has had a chance to transfer that heat to the service user.

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01/14/2011 7:17 AM

Bashir, I'm NOT surprised that someone would remark that they know best, I've seen a lot of that lately. I Doubt anyone can accurately determine your efficiencies without study of the actual demand..... Start with the Firing profile of this system ….. Neither pressure, nor temperature is the critical component in your COSTING structure. Fuel to energy... is what your paying the most for. My suggestion is study...Where is the optimum firing point, and can we stay at that speed/rate for as long as possible...... and achieve a balanced demand. .... supose you have one major user/ machine that is starting up ColdIron, can you have them come on line slowly, so the boiler doesn't have to go into Highfire. Ray

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01/14/2011 11:39 PM

There are many ways to save energy while operating boilers. Few of them include regular maintenance as per the relevant standards, regular cleaning and maintenance of steam traps, regular checking of exhaust gas analysis suing gas analyser, operating the bolier at a pressure at optimum level based on the site experience combined with theoretical calculation etc.

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01/15/2011 4:17 AM

If you increase the pressure to 8 bars and you need to use a pressure reducer to drop it back to 6 bars due to the limits on your equipments, you are not gaining any improvement in terms of efficiency. The pressure reducer will be consuming energy because of the dropping of the pressure.

On the other hand, if you need to keep the pressure stable/fixed at a certain pressure (like 5 or 6 bars), then a higher pressure + pressure regulator (reducer) will be necessary and will make the whole system more efficient from this point of vue.

Now if the installation consumption is just balanced or slightly less than the full capacity of the boiler (like 75% of the boiler max rating in steam generation), and the pressure requirement is not so critical (5 - 6 bar), then leave the boiler as is. Just make sure that you have a good working modulating system that will control the burner to keep the boiler running the longest possible without stopping. This will be more efficient: therefore, the trick is to make the boiler run at it's Burner best setting point without too many start stops.

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01/15/2011 10:43 AM

GA..... Lucke Easy to understand. I hope the OP appreciates it.

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01/17/2011 10:16 AM

This would only make real sense if you were in the process of designing and building the system, the savings would be in materials (tube, valve etc sizes) as higher pressures would require samller sizes of tube etc. If you look at a typical system you will see that the tube size on the lower pressure size is larger than on the higher pressure size.

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01/20/2011 7:34 AM

thanks to all.......

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