The 10 commands for the CR4 user...

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Hello Chris,

Difference between the two is yours are rules of engagement, Mine are rules(?) of thumb...

You have the power to pull out some of the trash, I can't, although sometimes I wish I had.

Hope it is OK with you, and none of the said is against CR-4 rules.

Ira.

Hi Wangito,

The one thing I disagree with is your #7.

If one is dealing with a complex issue, a short concise reply may not cover all necessary variables. I'm not defending lengthiness for the sake of verbosity; but instead completeness and clarity. It is better to write five or six paragraphs to completely explain your point, instead of having to come back a number of times to say "oh, yeah I should have mentioned that I have done this..." or "Yup, tried that it didn't work, so that's not what I'm looking for..."

This, of course is most critical in the original post, especially if your goal is to find an answer to a problem. Don't make people pull the question out of you - explain as much as you can upfront. Even the smallest detail may hold the key to answering the issue at hand. You're less likely to get someone to help you out again if they've spent time solving for something you already knew, but failed to mention.

Who are you to come up with the 10 Commandments of using this site?

If I want to know what I can and can't do, or for that matter how I should use this site, I will not contact you. I will contact CR4 itself.

Thankyou and goodday.

Hi PatyO!

1. Who am I? just one of the many CR-4.participants, like you.
2. These are is merely suggestions, Take it or leave it. Or come up with better ones, Be more creative...
3. One more thing, maybe the word "Command" (never said "commandments" if this what's bothering you, biblical connotation or what?) is a bit out of place, Maybe I should have used "ideas" or "suggestions". What think you?

Oh, BTW:Thanks for the photo, nice meeting you...Try to give us a bigger smile next time..

Cheers

Wangito.

Well wangito, you seem to have broken about 3 of your own rules in this last post of yours!

PatyO has every right to criticise your arrogance about starting a thread along the lines you have,

Entitled "10 commands for the...." - So who are you to tell others what your 'commands' are to be obeyed?

I did notice that you have reduced the 'commands' to suggestions and ideas... So now they aren't commands anymore, why not listen to others replies and suggestions to modify your ideas etc...

John.

Hi John electroman!

Agreed upon, Not only PatyO has the right, Every participant has it. It is exactly the same right I, you or anybody else has to bring new ideas and suggestions. No problem here, (I hope)

They were never "commands" in the manner you and PatyO understood them. Webster interpret command also as "Inflict respect upon..." or what about "command of the English language..." What does that mean? But I have agreed with PatyO and gladly accepted the constructive changes. No problem here as well (I hope)

And finally, "So why not listen to other replies..." But that's exactly what I have suggested, come-on, modify, criticize, improve do anything to increase the IQ level of this CR.

BTW: Which 3 rules did I break?

Wangito.

Now now children don't lets squabble over such a trivial nonsense, as to who gets to play God. I am sure it can be resolved so that we all agree to disagree over every thing said or done. After all why not argue over some irrelevant trivia.

It is always wise to think about what to say (engage brain before mouth/hand) before committing it to the fierce glare of this forum. There are so many big egos at large and some who will always find fault in another, before ever they seek to examine the large plank protruding from their own unfocused eye. Good common sense should prevail so as not to upset the harmony we strive to maintain. I come in piece not to be torn to pieces. Be moderate in all things, express not anger but knowledge, work to a common goal to further our future happiness. Let those without sin cast the first stone, and those sinners amongst us seek to repent of their anger, their prejudices.

Enough for now, go consider your future, meditate on your answer, engage you brain before you reply. God watches over all we do. Where is he I ask even as I slide into oblivion?

Do all this, and anything else you think that may increase our IQ level, and we all have fun. feel like adding something? please go right ahead.

Do you really mean 'IQ' ?

An individuals IQ is regarded is being pretty much fixed . A populations IQ is by definition fixed . Apart from IQ testing being prone to cultural bias , improving the IQ of CR4 would mean ditching 'stupid' people .

If you are sugesting some form of selectivity for membership , you may want to worry about your position in the hierachy of intellect . Someone , somewhere is always going to be 'superior' and out-class you.

C'mon Kris,

Yes I did mean IQ. But maybe in a different context than yours? How about IQ as an "Intelligence quality" where "Intelligence" refers to (Webster) as "Gathering of information." "Quality" instead of "quantity." we are engineers aren't we? Not shrinks!

And by the way, The fact that I am out classed by approximately 90% of the people around me had been bothering me since adolescence. Please don't step on my tows. About my position in the intellectual hierarchy, If this was a 19th century classical literature forum, I would most probably been asked to leave long time ago. Selectivity in this case is not always a bad thing. Think about it.

Nostalgia: 'Superiors?'... During my military service, I had many 'superiors', Let me tell you without being arrogant, many of them far less intelligent than I am...

It's trivial Mr. Watson, it's trivial..

Wangito.

I think I see Wangito ,

Yes I did mean IQ. But maybe in a different context than yours? How about IQ as an "Intelligence quality" where "Intelligence" refers to (Webster) as "Gathering of information." "Quality" instead of "quantity." we are engineers aren't we? Not shrinks!

IQ is generally understood as Intelligence Quotient , Intelligence being the faculty of reasoning and quotient being a comparative ranking. If a problem does not require prior knowledge , a child and adult of the same IQ have the same chance of solving it. Many real-life problems I have seen in Engineering can be summed up easily enough to enable a non-expert to make suggestion . Like yourself I find it irritating if a person without knowledge spouts off opinion which is just a waste of cyberspace , but dealing with the uninitiated is part and parcel of an Engineers job . When time allows , it's a pleasure to help somebody reach understanding . You've only got to follow the progress of a Challenge Question to see how much argument can go on even between qualified engineers.

As to toes ; thats why we have steel toe-capped boots

Superiors ; the 'peter principle' applies (people rise to the level of their incompetence ) . Thinking about it , many get a few levels above it .

ps -is that manual quote for real !