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Vibrational Behavior of Different Cross Sections

02/28/2011 12:36 AM

Different cross sections of a tube (solid, square tube, I section, C channel, Z section ) will behave differently when set on vibration.

hence natural frequency of the structure will also be dependant on cross sections of tube from which it is made.

how to find out which cross section will be most stable one?

how can we compare first natural frequency of each cross section with same length and material? is any formula of software is available readily to compare them?

if modal analysis is done in any software, can anybody provide tutorial for that? (preferably hyper mesh)

thanks

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Re: vibrational behaviour of different cross sections

02/28/2011 12:57 AM

To put it bluntly, I would not trust any hardware/firmware/software/vaporware allegedly available on this topic. And I probably wouldn't trust half of the lab tests, either. On one hand, I'm sorry to sound negative; but on the other, only reality rules.

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Re: vibrational behaviour of different cross sections

02/28/2011 10:41 AM

I agree with Tornado, but decided to comment anyway:

  • I'd expect the stiffest cross-section (in a traditional structural design sense) to be the most resistant to vibration--its natural mode of vibration will be at a higher frequency, which requires more energy to vibrate
  • As an aside to the above point, the stiffest has to be in all directions unless stiffened by other parts of the structure, which means, absent other stiffening, a round cross section is more resistant to vibration than anything unsymmetrical (like I-beam, channel, square)
  • The resistance of individual members to vibration is the minor issue--it is the connections between them that is the bigger issue.

Sort of as a counterpoint to what Tornado and I are saying (you have to test a model), there is at least one of those super tall buildings in a foreign country in which they installed a sort of "suspended counterweight" (a pendulum like thing, iirc) in one of the upper floors to counteract vibration (well, swaying) of the structure due to winds and such. I would guess that they had some design calculations to set the initial parameters, but then needed to do some fine tuning on site.

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