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High Impedance Relay

02/28/2011 1:44 AM

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can somebody tell me what is the basic of high impedance relay and difference between high and low impedance ?

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Re: high impedance relay

02/28/2011 4:42 AM

From: http://www.crazyengineers.com/forum/electrical-electronics-engineering/28361-high-impedance-relay-vs-low-impedance-relay.html

Also see: http://www.howstuffworks.com/

"Low impedance relays are used to switch high currents(like motors) while high impedance relays are used to switch low currents

The reasoning is as follows.

Relays used to switch higher currents need thicker contacts (to minimise heat and power loss), so the thicker the contacts are the heavier they become. Now to attract the contact (to achieve switching operation) the magnetic attraction has to be more powerful (because of the additional weight), implying the relay's coil should generate a higher magnetic flux. To have a greater magnetic flux, the current through the coil should obviously be higher. To facilitate higher current in the coil the resistance (impedance) of the coil should be lower.

Low impedance relays are bigger and more expensive, so try to use higher impedance relays wherever possible."

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Re: high impedance relay

03/01/2011 11:24 AM

Unfortunately, the "crazyengineers.com" link that you quote is totally wrong! High-impedance vs. low-impedance relaying has nothing to do with the load or burden on the output contacts. It relates to the circuit design of the input to the differential relay. Usually this is the case with a current differential scheme on a substation or switchgear bus.

High-impedance current differential relays parallel all of the CTs of the different bus connections (feeders) and bring them into one input on the relay. The currents of all of the CTs cancel out under normal conditions (sum of currents IN = currents OUT, assuming all CTs of same ratio). However, there are potential problems with the scheme if a CT saturates under an external fault, that could cause false tripping if the scheme is not properly designed.

Low-impedance diff relays bring each set of CTs into a different input on the relay, and then do the current differential comparison internally in the relay.

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Re: high impedance relay

05/23/2012 4:43 AM

you're so right..

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Re: High Impedance Relay

03/01/2011 3:29 AM

Do you mean Differential Relays?

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Re: High Impedance Relay

03/01/2011 6:35 AM

yes .especially REF.

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Re: High Impedance Relay

03/03/2011 10:45 AM

Now, shall we get on to slugged relays. Slow operate or release. Contact area vs. current, coil windings, core and armature flux?

Please. My reference is correct for the average person who is not a relay designer!

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Re: High Impedance Relay

03/03/2011 11:44 AM

§ The original question was about the difference between high impedance and low impedance relays.

§ No mention was made of "Differential".

§ However, differential relays have two current transformers feeding them, to detect unbalance between input and output grounded neutral. If the ground current rises, the relay operates and causes HT disconnection.

§ http://xnet.rrc.mb.ca/janaj/differential_protection.htm

§ High-impedance differential protection offers immunity against relay misoperation resulting from CT saturation. The SEL-587Z Relay uses internal 2000-ohm resistors to provide security against the effects of CT saturation for through faults. Internally mounted metal oxide varistors (MOV) are connected in parallel with the high-impedance element to clamp secondary peak voltage to less than 2 kV.

§ Low impedance relays have less protection against the possible HT voltages that may occur under fault conditions.

(From other sources)

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03/03/2011 11:54 AM

High impedance relays are usually directly operated. Low impedance relays are often DC operated from a trickle-charged battery source which requires regular maintenance, often neglected.

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