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Electrical Shock

03/09/2011 7:02 AM

Hi,

when I was working in substations, checking circuits, I sometimes get electric shock from 110VDC or 220VDC (by accident) even when i am in my safety shoes. How s that happening?

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03/09/2011 7:06 AM

Was any other part of your body touching anything? The current either flowed from body part "A" to body part "B" or the shock was ESD or shoe leakage (step on a thorn or nail?).

Safety shoes are worthless if the current path does not go through the feet.

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03/09/2011 7:30 AM

I wouldn't trust safety shoes alone. I'm not an electrician, but do electrical work occasionally. I have a healthy respect/fear of electricity. Whenever I do work in my panel I stand on a wooden stool to make sure I'm not grounded.

I've known 2 people that got electrocuted, both were trained professionals.

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03/09/2011 8:45 AM

Probably - this is only an assumption - only your feet were in the shoes; some other part of your body might have been n in contact with the earthed metalwork of te distribution board and if one of battery (either positive or negative) terminals is earthed, then there is o surprise that you got a shock.

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03/09/2011 10:23 AM

no, I was not touching any other part. By the way, I may accept that it would have happened due to if one of battery (either positive or negative) terminals is earthed. Why is it so earthed in battery. Is it to help the battery earth leakage protection to operate?

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03/09/2011 10:33 AM

Yes! You got it!

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03/09/2011 9:09 AM

Because you're careless.

Isolation is the first rule.

110V DC never used to bother me, 220V would!

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03/15/2011 12:37 AM

I was working on some live equipment in a wet area and got a few shocks, on close inspection I found that the soles on my safety shoes had worn out, they went in the Rubbish, now if I have to work on live equipment, I always check my safety shoes before handling live equipment.

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03/09/2011 10:24 AM

Might they be static discharges (if wheather was very dry)?

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03/09/2011 10:27 PM

You are just a big capacitor (actually not so big as measured in uF) and the small shock you get may be a short duration high current pulse when you get charged up!

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03/09/2011 11:24 PM

sometimes using PVC sole shoes leads to this problem just as when you get static charged and you touch your car the discharge arc happens through you. Change to rubber soled shoes.

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03/09/2011 11:30 PM

Some "Safety Boots', have steel toe insets, to prevent the crushing of toes in compression type accidents--You may want to check---

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03/10/2011 1:08 AM

That happens because you are not wearing the complete safety equipment: boots and gloves.

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03/10/2011 4:21 AM

if you are getting shocks.. you need to first receive the correct training (asking this question tells me you NEED training), have someone with you to teach you, step back and conduct a FULL risk assessment.. and if that fails take up another profession that you can do, like cooking... as if you continue this one it will kill you.

I agree with the other answers, you are careless.. to get a shock once is part of the learning curve, to get several AND admit it, well.... you come back in a few weeks time and read what you have written.. to me it seems way to careless and dangerous.

Do you intend living to old age?

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03/10/2011 11:18 AM

Careless or not..

Once upon a time.. twice actually I was shocked straight trough the insulation of wire.

Someone had wired indicator lamps and switches etc. to some bucky boost transformers and the insulation wasn't rated or functioning properly.

I had to connect powerline signal equipment to these lines and was gently pushing wires aside to see what we had when I felt a single cycle of 480+V jump though the wires.. Ouch.. I could smell my nose hairs.

I thought for sure I had touched a hidden live conductor.. So I carefully pushed some wires aside.. Ouch ...That's when I figured out I was being shocked .. through the insulation.. Thank goodness I only recieved a half cycle jolt.. If I crammed my hand into the wires?? Who knows? It felt like a month of coffee in a 60th of a second..

That was some good training.. Let that be a lesson to you!.. It was to me!

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03/10/2011 11:29 AM

OK..but you knew what had happened as you are trained and I bet you took the correct and proper precautions to prevent it happening again.. Yes?

The OP, just by the question, indicates he is not trained or has no training in safety, or both... whichever.. he will kill himself and others too!! See it been there.. not something I wish on my worse enemy!!

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03/10/2011 10:53 PM

Hello,

No one is getting the electrical shock voluntarily. I have been working as a commissioning engineer for 3 yrs and getting shock mild shock while testing is normal and it happens . We used to follow all the safety rules. If anyone has to leave this interesting job for this reason, he would be the best fool in the world. So members who are all posting answers here, dont give advice in a discouraging way.

Sorry if I am rude.

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03/10/2011 10:14 PM

of course i took care of it... more work ..

It was equipment that was on it's way out anyhow..

It was the kind of stuff that makes you wonder why it was there in the first place..

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03/11/2011 1:38 AM

maybe another part of your body touch the earthing part when u perform the task...not all safety shoe is electrical proof.Please check with safety shoe manufacture about electrical proof.I use PECOS REDWING safety shoe for electrical jobs.It is electrical proof.can stand for 1000volt for 1 minute :D

Please follow the electrical safety rules :D safety first :D

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03/11/2011 5:43 AM

Nothing is a perfect insulator, but many things are poor conductors and still others are insulating enough to create capacitors. Rubber soles are poor conductors and tend to be good at creating capacitors, especially considering that your body is essentially just a skin bag full of electrolytes. Once the charge in the skin-bag capacitor builds up sufficient charge, it can discharge along even the smallest of conductive paths, such as sweat and other moisture or even some types of dust collecting on the outsides of your clothing and shoes.

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03/11/2011 7:29 AM

Ha.. Just reminded me of when I was sitting on a damp concrete ledge and sorting through live wires.. One at a time.. Cut trim.. etc..

After sitting there awhile.. I could feel the voltage seeping through my pants..

that tingles..

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03/14/2011 11:14 PM

Sorry if I go off stream. But there was a time, years ago, when I was doing maintenance for a Hydrogen Generator (the solution inside generator was KOH).

After following the 1st rule, the machine was totaly isolated. I did not cover the positive and negative ends of the cables. So, during the maintenance, the positive cables (maximum 2000amp) touched the generator frame.

When we connected the cables to the connections. We found that the cable ends were very hot. It showed us that the cables were discharging the energy inside to the generator frame.

When I touched the cables to the frame again. There was spark as if we shorted the negative and positive of the battery.

Where did the energy possibly come from?

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