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Design Of Input & Output Choke For VFD

04/02/2011 5:01 AM

Anyone please give the Basic/complete Design details about the Input & output filter Choke of an Variable Frequency Drive.

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Re: Design Of Input & Output Choke For VFD

04/04/2011 10:42 AM

Hint: it's a low-pass filter.....

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04/06/2011 11:39 AM

I think this topic is worth some discussion. Well, the output filter, anyway. At one extreme you have folks who eschew using one at all; the motor's winding inductance doesn't mind fast PWM edges they reason. Small motors might be driven by an H-bridge of mosfets, with as fast as 20ns risetimes, and larger motors by IGBTs with 50 to 200ns risetimes, so RF interference is an important issue.

RFI suppression can be easily handled with simple LC filters. Sometimes called dV/dt filters, these slow down the switching edges. A high-performance dV/dt spec might be 500V/μs. Filters to reduce RFI for frequencies over 1MHz can use low-value chokes, which can be made with modest air-core coils, that have the benefit of handling high currents without saturating. And the capacitors aren't too bad either. For example, C = I / dV/dt = 0.1μF for a current of say 50A. I imagine that most VFD drives already include internal RFI filters.

At the other extreme you have folks who'd like to deal with filtering the low PWM frequency. For example, they may need to reduce magnetostriction noise and vibration in the motor.

Sometimes called sine-wave filters, the best of these types provide sinusoidal phase-to-phase motor terminal voltages. I imagine these are not included by default in VFD drives. Danfoss has a useful 41-page filter quide (document MG90N402, hopefully this link will work).

The circuit looks simple (below), just an LC on each line. But these filters require large inductors (left), and you can see that they can become quite large and expensive. They are not air-core inductors, so maximum current ratings become a big size, weight, and cost issue. Nature does help us in one aspect: even though we're trying to achieve a good 50 or 60Hz sine wave, thankfully these filters only need to have a cutoff frequency somewhat below half the PWM frequency.

There are various choices having to do with 3-phase Delta and Wye circuits, filtering to the neutral, frame ground, etc.

Filtering on the input side is a different story. DC chokes have traditionally been used.

But I believe that newer designs have high-frequency smps DC sources for the PWM stage, which can handle the varying bulk-capacitor voltages without requiring large DC chokes. This is all a part of their power-factor-corrected PFC input stage.

Being an electronics, rather than electrical engineer, I don't have much experience with these things. I'd love to hear some details and war stories from those here that do.

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04/08/2011 9:31 AM

"Danfoss has a useful 41-page filter quide (document MG90N402, hopefully this link will work)."

The link worked when I tried it while composing the post, but it doesn't now. I couldn't find the precise location for the Danfoss file on their website, it's hidden and can only be found with a search. But the document is well worth reading, so you can try going to the Danfoss VLT website and search on MG90N402 using the little box on the upper right. That didn't work for me right now either, but using Google to search the Danfoss site works, use Google with this search term: Output Filters Design Guide site:danfoss.com - or try MG90N402 site:danfoss.com

Sheesh, don't get me started on the poor design of manufacturer's websites. It seems the larger the company, and the wider their range of products, the worse it gets. Why doesn't corporate let each group make their own well-focused responsive website?

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04/08/2011 4:38 PM

WH, its answers like this that give you one of the highest GA'a to posts ratios in CR4. We all will remember that if you post more that won't get a GA, you can slap around too, you would know when we need it . Thanks for your effort.

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04/11/2011 12:23 AM

Try the followup thread to yours below

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/67744

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