Black Carbon

Do you mean Black Carbon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_carbon

or Carbon Black

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_Black

There is a big difference.

Can you also supply more (relevant) information, as much of what you have mentioned is just not that helpful.

I'd rate it as :"High Ash."

Milo

SIR,

THIS IS LAB REPORT. I AM TELLING U THE FACTUAL POSITION. ON THAT BASIS I AM

SEEKING UR RATING ON SCALE OF 10 AND ITS MKT. VALUE AND ON WHAT BASIS THE PRICE WILL INCREASE OR VICE VERSA.

REGARDS.

Its value in the market is based first on demand, not supply. Second, its quality and suitability compared to the quality demanded.

Having a pile of something doen't make it a marketable product.

Having demand does.

How is it packaged? how uniform is this supply. is this a single grab sample, or an aggregated composite sample of a time series of samples?

WHo is your market? paint manufacturers, rubber goods, others?

You should invest in the ASTM specification that covers this, which I believe to be this one:

http://www.astm.org/Standards/D561.htm

Or you could determine if a similar standard has been published in your country that is authoritative in your market.

Then you will have a benchmark to compare your lab report to.

Milo

SIR,

THIS IS LAB REPORT. WHAT TYPE OF INFORMATION U WANT I WILL TRY TO PROVIDE U.

REGARDS.

Can you describe your application in more detail, including if this is in fact for black carbon (and not carbon black). What is the purpose of the lab report?

Are there any conclusions in said lab report regarding the values? If not is there a referenced document or procedure or request that explains what the limits/values should be?

Additionally can you state the units of measure for your existing specifications, as well as expanding the acronyms for clarity (I am assuming S is for Sulphur content, but what is IAN?)

Additionally do you have any more measured material characteristics

Finally, what is the black carbon / carbon black being used for (or in the case of black carbon, what pollution / environmental waste requirements/limits are you trying to meet)? There is a very big difference between the two.

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As you can see with the questions above your application (and hence any response we may give here) is dependent on understanding your application (which is very unclear at the moment).

Please provide as much information as possible.

SIR,

CAN I HAVE UR PROFFESIONAL BACKGROUND IF U DO NOT MIND.

REGARDS.

IF U R ONLINE WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION.

CAN I HAVE UR PROFFESIONAL BACKGROUND IF U DO NOT MIND.

I would have preferred some answers to my questions I asked to better understand and answer your original question.

Just briefly then, I am an Electrical Engineer with a degree with honors in power engineering and a certificate in engineering in industrial instrumentation and control. I have worked in a number of companies over the years (including a subcontractor designing one of the Mars rovers - yes they subcontracted out to NZ, no this particular mission was canceled due to NASA budget cuts) and electrical testing laboratory. I am currently working in the power transmission and distribution field which includes (as part of my job) wind farm design and commissioning, hazardous area equipment certification, laboratory testing, product design and project management.

Now can you please answer some of my questions, such as is your question regarding "Black Carbon" or "Carbon Black".

GOOD MORING AND THANKS A LOT. LET ME TELL U SOMETHING ABOUT OUR PROJECT.

WE INTEND TO SET UP WASTE TYRE RECYCLING PLANT . IT WILL PRODUCE

1 FURNANCE OIL

2 CARBON BLACK POWDER

3 SCRAP IRON

4 GAS

LAB REPORT OF CARBON BLACK I HAVE SENT TO U. I CAN PROVIDE U LAB REPORT

OF FURNANCE OIL AS FOLLOWS :

1 CALROFIC VALUE - 9590

2 FLASH POINT - 46 C

3 MOISTURE-.56 %

ALSO IAN MEANS IODINE ABSORPTION NO.

S MEANS SULPHUR.

I AM A SCIENCE GRADUATE. NOW PL GUIDE ME.CAN I SET UP A SMALL LAB IN MY UNIT

AND DO TESTING MY SELF. WAHT WILL BE ITS COST. ALSO GUIDE ME FOR SOME WEBSITE WHICH CAN BE HELPFUL.

ANY OTHER QUERRIES IS MOST WELCOME.

REGARDS.

I AM A SCIENCE GRADUATE. NOW PL GUIDE ME.CAN I SET UP A SMALL LAB IN MY UNIT

AND DO TESTING MY SELF. WAHT WILL BE ITS COST.

There is no short answer except - Possibly, but it will require you doing some research into the relevant standards applicable to chemical quality control and measurement, along with purchasing those relevant standards (because most are not free) first, which should give you a good idea of how difficult it will be. I am guessing you want to set up a basic lab to monitor quality control of the byproducts from the recycling plant.

As for cost, once you have an idea of what level of testing you wish to undertake you will need to look (or ask here on CR4) at the equipment necessary to perform the testing. Finally you will need to look into if you require your small lab to be accredited or certified as a requirement for the level (which I am not sure) of product quality control that may be required for sale of the byproducts. Even a basic accredited electrical test lab can easily run into high tens of thousands.

The main thing I guess would FIRST be to look at your potential market and see where you (or the company the 'we' you mentioned are setting up) are going to sell to (or even if you can sell it, or sell it for a profit). This varys from country to country, industry to industry and end customer to end customer (carbon black is used in a varity of different industries).

This is vital to prevent you wasting time, money and resources only to find you cannot sell for one reason or another. A key reason startup business's fail!

The cost and complexity of your lab will vary from very expensive (if selling to say the Pharmaceutical industry) where tight tolerance, quality control and lab accreditation is vital to quite basic if selling the carbon black as a filler where expected variations in the chemical composition doesn't matter. The same goes for quality control of the other recycling byproducts, however as they are likely going to be used on site (or sold) as fuels this is less critical.

No use setting up a lab if it is not going to meet your customers requirements!

ALSO GUIDE ME FOR SOME WEBSITE WHICH CAN BE HELPFUL.

The following are quite helpful

http://carbon-black.org/

http://www.inchem.org/documents/iarc/vol65/carbon.html

Market research report on the world market (you would need to purchase)

http://www.freedoniagroup.com/World-Carbon-Black.html

More information can be found with a general internet search of "carbon black market", etc. There is a lot of information available but careful use of key words in internet search engines can produce lots of helpful websites and information relevant to your particular application.

THANKS.

Do stop SHOUTING. Many readers are case-sensitive.