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Late 1930's Packard Saloons Uncovered

04/10/2011 10:18 PM

Hi All,

I have an interesting trove of parts that has become available with the death of my Father-in-law, and I would appreciate the advice of any knowlegeable folk on this forum as to how to best deal with it.

Father-in-law Stephen was a hoarder, and he never threw away his old cars when they died, just parked them up and bought another.

In amongst the stuff that he saved are four late-1930's Packard saloons, at least one of which was the straight-8 version. Although suffering from the effects of being stored for 40 years (one car was stored indoors and seems relatively complete and rust-free, the others are really only suitable for spare parts), it appears that there are enough parts there to make one complete car if someone wanted to restore it.

Question is, are these Packards worth anything? We can easily send them off to the scrap-metal man for shredding and recycling, but this would only happen if no-one wants them for anything else.

The Packards are still embedded in a mountain of other parts, mostly air-cooled VWs, but I can probably get some photos if they would help.

Thoughts, anyone?

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Re: Late 1930's Packard Saloons Uncovered

04/10/2011 11:12 PM

The short answer is yes they are worth something, certainly more than scrap value.

Now its just a question of how to realise that value. If you have a little bit of time to sort through things properly then you will be able to sell them for a resonable price, if you have to clear out by friday then sadly its off to the scrappers they go...

Photos are good, and the clearer and detailed (read photos taken during the day with sunlight rather than at night with a lit match) they are, the better off you will be. Try to photograph them individually. Don't forget the interiors either.

Your market will be accessed by either ebay http://www.motors.ebay.com/(advertise in the U.S. ebay not the Oz version), or Hemmings ( a CR4 blogger) .com http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/. You might even try http://www.trademe.co.nz/ but that's purely N.Z. You might also try the local internationally recognised auction houses in N.Z. Just make mention that collection is at the buyers expense and effort. The Packards will appeal to restorers in whatever condition they are.

These cars will most likely go overseas,

Don't discard the VW's either there is a demand for those as well.

It is important to list the cars individually, and write down as much detail as you can, this includes chassis and engine numbers, be pesimistic rather than optimistic with regards to the condition. If a car has rust say so, and say where that rust is. If you can find any documentation your father in law had on them, include those in the sale as well. It's known in the trade as "provenance", they don't need road worthy's or current registration, but any old registration/vehicle license pertaining to the cars is good. Adds to the history and hence value of the cars. Marking it as "deceased estate" will also improve interest in the vehicles.

Hemmings, have highlighted many auction sales of different packard cars lately and so there is an interest in them.

While it may seem daunting at the moment you will be doing all a good service by persevering.

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04/10/2011 11:48 PM

For advertising, don't forget the AACA (Antique Automobile Club of America); their website is www.AACA.org I believe. Also there is probably a Packard marque club.

Be sure any advertising covers New Zealand; I think there is an active hobby there plus it would eliminate transportation costs.

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04/10/2011 11:21 PM

Just did a quick searh on Hemmings Classifieds and found quite a few Packards in various stated of repair for sale. 143 cars listed in all years.

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/?op=query&adtype=carsforsale&q=packard

And here is my search results for ebay motors U.S.A.

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/__?_from=R40&_trksid=p3841.m39.l1313&_nkw=packard&_sacat=

Nearly 5800 articles for sale under Packard.

So I think you'd have half a chance of selling the ones you have for more than scrap price.

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04/12/2011 2:29 AM

Toburgrynbak, (That sure is a mouthful!)

Well, a stupendous job of research for the original OP.

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04/11/2011 11:17 PM

Dish HD channel 5710 (test) Has many great auto shows "Chasing Clasic Cars" Is about a clasic car broker. He goes to all the great auctions, buying and selling clasic cars for clients and for his company. Warning ! The channel does not display what on. "no description available for this event" Google it... My Favorite channel

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Re: Late 1930's Packard Saloons Uncovered

04/12/2011 2:37 AM

Hi Paul,

When I was younger my uncle had me look for a Packard for him in Wellington, back in the 1970's it was. He was willing to pay anything for one, but we never did find one. He settled for a Studebaker but told us to keep an eye out. Back then they were valued. Now, in NZ I presume they are worth a hundred-fold more. With four of them, I would say you are probably sitting on a real little goldmine there. I so wish I had access to them, oh and the funds to do them justice, be like a dream come true. Alas at this time its not possible.

Please don't sell yourself short with them, they are a great asset and should give a great return.

Lucky you :)

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04/12/2011 7:11 AM

Theres no question you have something of value, and yes there's a market. I think the real question is how much time and effort are you willing to put into parting out the cars? It might take years to get rid of all the stuff if sold piece by piece. Maybe you could sell it all as a lot to someone who has the time and energy to take everything apart, clean it, categorize and sell it.

Either way you have some work ahead you if you really want to capture some $$. Good luck.

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04/12/2011 7:18 AM

try a local antique auto club in your local area, also out in Pennyslvania in a town called Carisle there are numerous auto shows all summer where you can register and bring your parts or auto and sell everything. Packards are a very popular car. There are also many shows around the country that may be closer to where you live, magazines are also a very good place to advertise you stuff. I have a 1948 Ford F1 pickup that is original and not all modified with a big engine and fancy interior I have no problem finding parts.

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04/12/2011 8:49 PM

You might also want to check out Spike TV. They have a new show starting soon called Search and Restore. This show will select car(s) from individuals that have submitted a request for help along with why they deserve it and (at least to my understanding) will refurbish/restore the cars "free of charge" and show it on TV. It is tied into the Sat./Sun. Power Block line-up. Sounds like you could have some sentimental value here. Good Luck.

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Re: Late 1930's Packard Saloons Uncovered

04/13/2011 8:37 AM

Don't forget the Studebaker Driver's Club... Search online....

Studebaker bought Packard in '54 and that allows Packard to be part of the SDC.

A member advertises free....

Also, the market dictates the value of any old car... Unfortunately we're in a down economy. But do not let them go to the scrapper to be made into whatever gets driven today. Where are you located?

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04/13/2011 11:29 PM

The data with the original post said he was in New Zealand; presumably the cars are also. Several of the posts have ignored this!

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