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GI Conduits

04/12/2011 3:15 AM

- At current practice can GI conduits(steel conduits) for electrical wiring distribution be embeded in R C concrete elements, block walls and Gypsum dry walls?

- IS such practice now replaced by PVC conduits ?

- OR currently both can be used ? .. Which one is preferable ? ...and Why ?

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Re: GI Conduits

04/12/2011 3:40 AM

(a) Yes the metallic conduits can be embeded/concealed.

(b) Since PVC requires less man hours it's easy to work with and less costlier, the trend is to prefer PVC.

(c) Both are currently being used but take it into account that where ever there is risk of mechanical injury or in communication wiring when shielding from strong interference you should select steel conduit or ducting instead of PVC.

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Re: GI Conduits

04/12/2011 7:23 AM

GI conduits is broad term for galvanized iron conduits. In which there are many types.

Don't think i would want to embed flex in a poured concrete.

I've seen PVC used to run thru poured concrete. I would not recommend it. Seen too many problems doing it that way. Would recommend that any conduit passing thru concrete be rigid pipe. Expansion and contraction of the concrete over time can cause PVC to crack and break off. This is only if the conduit is set before the the concrete is poured and a slab is poured around it. If you are drilling though to set the pipe it does not seem to be a problem using PVC. Most are sealed with some flexible sealant.

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Re: GI Conduits

04/12/2011 11:56 PM

A major issue in some areas is corrosion of embedded metal conduit- cases I am familiar with involve the use of beach sand in the concrete mix. Corrosion of the steel conduit resulting from contact with the salt can result in damage to the concrete due to expansion resulting from the corrosion. Don't believe the contractor when he assures you he has washed the sand! If you are near the ocean, your sand most likely is going to have salt in it.

On the other hand, I have never encountered a problem with PVC conduit in concrete. I have drawn new wire into old PVC conduit with no problem- where in similar situations, the metal conduit must be abandoned.

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04/13/2011 3:34 AM

PVC is used extensively during recent years due to its easy in handling it.

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04/13/2011 7:13 AM

Cast my vote for PVC but no matter what you like it's always up to code.

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Re: GI Conduits

04/13/2011 9:17 AM

In an industrial application, it is my company's practice to "mix" the 2 types of conduit.

We run PVC through the concrete, for ease of installation, but we transition to Rigid Pipe when exiting the concrete slab. In the past, we have seen PVC conduit damaged or even sheared off at the floor level by fork-lifts or other mechanical damage. For this reason, we currently use a pvc threaded female adapter ("FA") to change to a 90 degree rigid "sweep".

I am seeing more and more engineer's drawings specifying this method also.

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04/19/2011 11:03 AM

Putting GI conduits inside RC concrete does not seem practical anyway especially for high humidity environment. The water vapor will condense inside the conduit wall and the small space between the conduit and concrete. As a result, sooner or later, GI conduit will be rust for such application. Have you ever checked the steel box? I prefer PVC in this case.

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