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Electrical Commissioning Engineer, Power Plant

04/17/2011 1:21 AM

Have a Nice Day Sir,

I'am a First time for Power plant Industry as in Commissioning Engineer. and What is the important Subject I'have to Review for example. because had expereince before and after ELECTRICAL AND INSTRUMENT INSTALLATION OIL&GAS/PETROCHEMECALs, So as of now I'need somebody to Help me ADVICE PLS...,

THANKS A LOT, IN GOD BLESS MORE POWER..

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Re: ELECTRICAL COMMISSIONING ENGINEER, POWER PLANT

04/17/2011 5:14 AM

Should be more specified on your role in this plant:

1. Are you from the contractor who build the plant?

2. Are you from the consultant who is responsible for technical supporting?

3. Or are you a trainee who will supervise the contractor and the consultant?

After you answer those question, then, the first and important thing you need to ask yourself is what part of this plant you will have to do commissioning because I don't think you will do the whole things to make it run.

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Re: ELECTRICAL COMMISSIONING ENGINEER, POWER PLANT

04/17/2011 9:22 AM

ok.. I'am from Meancontractor HYUNDAI Co.

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04/17/2011 12:28 PM

Do you mean that your employer - Hyundai is a "mean" contractor?

I assume it is the Main Contractor.

Commissioning expertise - one has to gain after many years of practical experinence. There are no standard text books available on the subjet.

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04/17/2011 12:45 PM

Then maybe "we" should work on one. ;-)

I think CR4 is / can be a step in that direction.

As my first contribution, I think someone in the commissioning team has to be something of a jack of all trades, that is, have reasonable general knowledge and know where to find expertise in each of the relevant fields. Perhaps after many years, a good commissioning team member will be close to an expert in many fields--or maybe better stated as having a lot of practical knowledge in many fields.

(To be a real expert, I think you need a mix of practical and "theoretical" knowledge in a field.)

If you are commisioning an electrical power plant, you should have good knowledge of electrical generation and such, and good knowledge related to the type of prime mover being used (is it steam, nuclear, gas turbine, diesel?).

You also need to be very cognizant of safety.

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Re: Electrical Commissioning Engineer, Power Plant

04/17/2011 3:19 PM

I think someone in the commissioning team has to be something of a jack of all trades

Did someone mention me.

As an actual electrical commissioning engineer I would say it is important to know what knowledge and experience you have got, what site standards you are working to and what exactly is expected of you (ie- your initial and future responsibilities). This is quite important, and possibly more so in your case (I believe HYUNDAI make certain types of complete power station packaged solutions, not just select bits of plant).

Having a firm grasp of exactly what you will be doing and what is expected of you is an important first step as it will show you exactly what areas you lack knowledge in and hence can tailor your learning experience directly to. It is not overly helpful for you to learn how a power plant generator or turbine operates or how to repair it if you are only expected to be installing and commissioning a compressor.

General power generation and transmission textbooks and data are available off the internet but I would have a close look at any relevant company documentation, standards, etc relating to your (new) position.

Additionally talk to commissioning co-workers, your boss, etc, as an active interest in your (new) position and furthering your learning is (generally) seen as a good thing and will help to pinpoint what areas of study you should concentrate on.

If you had time I would also suggest a short University engineering course in power generation and transmission (possibly a night school course). Not absolutely necessary, but could also be an option.

Jack - an actual electrical commissioning engineer working in the oil & gas industry

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04/17/2011 8:33 PM

If you are from a contractor. Things would be easier. Once again, you will have several question to be asked. You will join the commissioning as the trainee or are you officially involved in the commissioning team as an officer?

Whoever you are, the key is to ensure the commissioning would be successful. How to do this, you should have another important stage which is so-called pre-commissioning. In this stage, there is a large amount of work to be done including mechanical check, electrical check, instrument and control check, alignment check... All of the defectiveness or lacking would be correctly treated as this stage. As you know, this is normally done by the supplier, I mean the supplier who design and sell the plant.

Then, when the commissioning time comes, depending how you will be gonna manage, you will lead a commissioning team or you are an individual of the commissioning team.

You need to make sure that all of the records which is within your management, shall be available, all of the defection found is properly corrected.

Then, variety of so-called check list shall be make available including operation parameters, electrical or instrumentation parameter, machine condition...which are an crucial part for official operation.

As you know, these of parameters shall be part of the commissioning report or handover documentation.

Hyundai is a large company, you should get back to your main office, dig out the documentary system, find the necessary things like the previous commissioning recording...ask for support from the main office. Then, let's sweet things go.

Last but not least, this will ensure you will not run around the plant during commissioning. Be sure you will have for your own one walkie-talkie and mare sure it will work before the commissioning starts.

Hope it helps,

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