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EMR Protection

07/03/2011 6:10 AM

Dear Friends,

I am looking for a system (fabric, net or other) which provides cellular radiation protection for the whole house. I imagine of some sort of a device, foil or paint which I could incorporate into the exterior wall so that it is invisible. Something like a thin layer of a proper material which we could line into the wall's exterior veneer or attach onto the thermal insulating material or similar?

Similarly we would like to protect the house from electromagnetic radiation (EMR) coming from overhead power lines.

Is there anything to serve that purpose? I welcome your suggestion.

Thank you for your consideration.

Sincerely yours,

Chris

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Re: EMR protection

07/03/2011 6:47 AM

Why?

For high frequency shielding, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage.

If your home has metal doors, metal shutters over the windows, aluminum siding, a standing seam metal roof, and all these items are well connected (electrically), you already have some level of HF shielding.

Low frequency 50-60Hz, shielding is more difficult. If you wish to avoid 50-60Hz fields, then you must first disconnect your entire home from the power grid and power everything inside with DC or use NO electrical devices at all. A Faraday cage around the entire house will take care of electric fields and some of the magnetic fields as well. For more complete protection from magnetic fields you will also need to cover your home with a high permeability material, like sheets of transformer steel.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_shielding

Effectively shielding large areas is usually a very costly and complicated process. So I return to my original question of why do you want to do this?

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07/03/2011 1:20 PM

Guru hi!

Radiation is harmful to our health. This is why I want to do this, i.e. to protect myself and my family.

In case I find a good and affordable solution I may do a business of selling EMR protection to other home owners.

Rgds,

Chrissaki

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07/03/2011 3:33 PM

While ionizing radiation IS a health hazard, the medical evidence regarding the health effects of non-ionizing EM radiation is hardly conclusive. All the studies I've read either for or against health effects have contained laughable statistics, no significant correlation or any evidence of causation, and heavily biased unsupportable conclusions. I have an open mind on the subject and eagerly welcome some REAL scientific studies to confirm or disprove the hypothesis. At this time we just don't know.

Obviously if you stand in front of an active RADAR antenna on a Battleship, you are likely to be severely injured or killed by the radiation. This is NOT what I am talking about here. I am referring to the typical EM exposure found in daily modern life here in the US. Electrical wiring above(or below) every street and in every home, electronic appliances, WiFi, cell-phones, and cell towers everywhere.

Based on my current knowledge, I'd expect the detrimental health effects from toxins in food/water/air, possible genetically inherited conditions, stress, poor diet choices, and insufficient physical activity are several orders of magnitude MORE important to ones general health than the typical exposures to EM fields.

With no direct supporting evidence, I suspect it is possible that developing children/teens with cell phones glued to their ears for many hours per day MAY have a higher probability of developing health problems. This could be from the EM radiation itself or the fact that they have wasted precious time that could have been used to study and learn how to make more healthy choices in life.

I highly recommend you study this topic more carefully before trying to design something that may be completely unnecessary or totally ineffective.

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07/03/2011 4:23 PM

Here is a link to a paint product that blocks cell frequencies. The retailer also points out some possible safety inspection issues for a whole house shield, and the necessity to ground it. You would also need another product that (presumably) admits light and blocks EMR for the windows, to make the continuous shield.

As you can see, there are people who are in the business of supplying shielding products but they are very costly when applied on the civil engineering scale, and my guess is that they are rarely used for that purpose, since, as has been pointed out, the reason for doing so is not well established! Unless you wanted , for example, a conference room where there are no cell phone signals. Still expensive, but at least, purposeful.

The carbon paint product sold by the retailer, above, is marginally less expensive than metallic conductive paints. I don't know what other type of conducting or absorbing material you could develop as a cost effective alternative.

In fact, if you are really concerned about overhead power lines and cell radiation, it would be more cost effective to simply move to, or choose, a location where those sources are not situated over your home.

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07/03/2011 7:14 PM

I think it should be a higher priority to protect your family from wastage of money.

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07/04/2011 11:33 AM

Quite right Tornado. I personally favor something on a smaller scale, far less expensive, and where I go, it goes! Voila!

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07/03/2011 10:30 PM

And how will you protect them when they go outside and are subjected to the radiation from everything!?

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07/03/2011 11:13 PM

@Chrissaki -- Do you have any measuring instruments for electrostatic and electromagnetic fields? What levels of ES and EM are you trying to achieve or avoid?

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07/04/2011 12:11 AM

The radiation you and your family receive from from your mobile phone hand piece is several orders of magnitude higher than you will ever receive from cell towers, even a very close cell tower.

If you find a way of blocking the incoming radiation:

1. no radio RF receiver will work in your house without being connected to an antenna outside your house.

2. all the RF generated by devices inside your house will tend to be reflected internally until it is absorbed by something/somebody.

3. You may be in breach of FCC regulations for interfering with commercial broadcasting......

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07/04/2011 10:44 AM

There is not a whole lot you can do to get away from cellular radiation as it is everywhere. And if you are really concerned about the electromagnetic radiation (EMR) coming from overhead power lines above your house there is a product out there that will give you 100% protection........................It's called a Moving Van.

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07/04/2011 11:23 AM
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07/05/2011 2:25 PM

Short of a concerted attack, the methods described above will screen out most non-ionizing radiation. However, the more attempts made to filter out the radiation, the more a concerted an attack may become (red flags to organized groups or interests).

They have you covered in all aspects of life. For instance, the 60Hz radiation emitting from the electric line you are speaking of has modulation (intelligence) on its trailing edge if you look at it on an oscillocope (chirped transmitter). That is how the electric company communicates with its employees, usually by encrypted and coded mobile radio equipment, as well as your local fire and police departments using similar transmission methods, not to mention most other agencies or groups, if they are fairly sophisticated and well funded. Military technology has been adopted by all civilian agencies used on the public.

If you just want to jam the 2.4Ghz bandwidth that cell phones and GPS use, you can buy commercial jammers on the Internet. However, they are applying for other unused frequencies. They also use frequency-hopping and other techniques to bypass that equipment. There are many scams out there, so I would be aware. I've gone through most of them. Don't become a magnet, if possible.

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07/05/2011 4:57 PM

There is a far, far more dangerous source of radiation that most of us are exposed to each day from which we generally do not take adequate measures of protection. And it is much, much more likely to cause you harm than low frequency EMF fields. That would be the sun. You are much more likely to incur sun damage from a ten minute walk around your yard than from a century of living under a power line (unless, of course, it breaks and falls on you).

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