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Thermal Rating for Heat Exchangers

07/05/2011 3:23 AM

Hello, gentlemen,

Are there somebody who has experience to figure out thermal rating for Heat exchangers? Please tell me what kinds of soft program you have run to estimate the thermal rating. Meanwhile, could you please recommend me to how to access and learn it based on your experience? In addition, ASME Sec VIII Div. II is pretty better to analyze all kinds of stress like fatigue, strain, crack creep yield etc. than Div I? Please advise me of difference between Div. I and II.

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Re: Thermal rating for Heat exchangers.

07/05/2011 4:07 AM

Nah, there is nobody "out there" who has experience with this, except for a few old farts. For the really old farts who still use the orange Crane catalog for HX design, K = about 90 or so on S&T HXs. For the young farts dealing with P&F HXs, K = 300-400, or maybe more. Ain't progress wonderful? (If this is not in your native language, you'll just have to get it translated.)

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07/05/2011 9:29 AM

Moonbeam...

Your phrase "figure out the thermal rating" is confusing to me.

Heat exchangers exist as part of a larger process chemical cycle. The cycle is designed to produce a certain amount of product per hour or day. The overall performance goal of the plant is summarized in a heat-mass balance documents. (Also called PFDs)

The various heat exchangers, as well as the columns, pumps, seperators are sized to meet this goal. Therefore, the desired HX thermal rating is part of the heat-mass balance goal. Typically, each heat exchanger is custom designed to best perform at one point.

Hope that this helps !!

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07/05/2011 3:24 PM

Unless I'm missing something, thermal rating sounds to me pretty straightforward - the mass flow of what you're heating (or cooling) x specific heat x ΔT (in-out) = thermal power (kW).

The difficult bit is finding the heat transfer rate, kW/m2 for a particular type of heat exchanger under the conditions you want to use it, and hence the surface area needed.

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07/05/2011 11:58 PM

Two methods to design heat exchanger. LMTD Method and Effectiveness-NTU method. For most of process application the later one is preferred.

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07/06/2011 7:27 AM

That's right, and that's what he needs to do to size his heat exchanger. But is that the "thermal rating"? Also it's a pretty complicated series of calculations. Unless there's some empirical back-up I'd want to include a good safety margin!

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