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Again Relating to Current Different Way

07/09/2011 7:02 AM

Two days back i thought of connecting solar energy with turbine so that the energy gained from solar plane transfered and turbine rotates and there excess or solar energy not at all wasted in any means even if solar cell is completely charged.

In this way during summer also we can make the turbine gets rotated too.

Also during night time energy from solar cell is transfered to turbine this way 24 hrs of current can be supplied.

I wolud suggest to setup this technique where large amount of wind blows. So that other than summer days this also can be done.

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07/09/2011 8:20 AM

What on earth are you talking about!

Driving a turbine by solar power? What are you trying to create a giant cooling fan for your district?

Just buy a bigger battery to store the excess energy.

Better still get an engineer in that knows what he's doing!

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07/09/2011 12:46 PM

I'm hoping that this is just "a failure to communicate".Otherwise................................?

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07/09/2011 12:52 PM

Never mind, the guys whacky! Wants to generate electricity with springs.

Hey, Maybe that would work. Wind them up at night when power's cheap and unwind 'em next day to satisfy peak demand.

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07/11/2011 6:54 PM

YES it is a good way to use the thermal wind from the solar divice.

Yes it does create a updraft that would be able to drive a divive that can charge a battery or store it in a stroage divice Tanks.

Get more information on thermal winds, before you make a ass. from lack of thought!

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07/11/2011 7:53 PM

I have not seen your plans, and won't bother doing so. Your device may attempt to use an updraft to drive a turbine, but I don't believe that is what the OP had in mind.

Updraft systems have been proposed, and I believe at least one is actually under construction in Australia, but it is a significant fraction of a mile high - not something one can do in his back yard!

Please use a spell checker before you submit any further posts! (That is the ABC√ icon in the editor, or write your material in a word processor, check it for accuracy, then copy and paste into the editor). It would make you seem significantly more credible...

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07/09/2011 11:33 PM

I'd like to be a bit more gentle...

The purpose of a wind turbine is to extract energy from the wind (which is effectively a form of solar energy).

The purpose of solar panels is to extract energy directly from solar radiation.

Every time you convert energy from one form to another, there are losses. This means that if you try to use energy from a solar panel to spin a wind turbine, you are doing nothing but creating a breeze and throwing energy away in the process. You would be much better off storing the solar energy directly in batteries, and storing the wind energy in the same batteries. It is probable that the peak energy from the turbine occurs at different times or on different days than the peak energy from the solar panels, so the two devices would complement each other.

If your batteries can't store the energy provided by the solar panel and the wind turbine combined, then you need more or larger batteries.

Now the bottom line is that your idea won't work!

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07/10/2011 3:52 AM

Please don't do this, it sounds very dangerous - if the wind blows the wrong way, it may send electric back to your solar planes. Planes will then emit hazerdous light into the sky.

This is not good for astyronomers and pilots of aircrufts. Only risk it during daytimes out of respect for nightytime privacy. Just don't blame me if windy power eqauls solar power and the 2 combust when they meet going in opposite directions.

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07/10/2011 8:10 AM

I think you need a MUCH larger rubber band to store all this excess energy.

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07/10/2011 10:41 AM

Hi Fellow 49rs the thermal solar turbine method combined with a cone shape structure is the containment chamber for a on demand power source using hydraulic accumulators that drive a standard generator, This system has been on the possibilities for over 40 years and is now in phase 2 step 1 construction and development stage as a urban development of a renewable energy home in jennings county IN. Get your community awareness package of how to is known .

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07/11/2011 9:59 AM

I'm going to translate solar "plane" into "panel" and "turbine" into "flywheel" and assume you are proposing a system that stores excess energy gathered from solar and wind sources.

The energy stored in fossil fuels is quite large and the current fuel costs are just too low compared to other energy storage schemes. Batteries, "flywheels", and most other forms of energy storage (except pumped storage hydro ref1 and ref2) are currently too expensive for large scale use.

The cost of wind/solar/battery-storage in each home can be justified by many people living with favorable wind/solar conditions and in areas with high electric utility rates. However, for many of us in unfavorable wind/solar regions with low electric utility rates, these systems are still too costly even with large government subsidies.

"Grid" storage of solar and wind power does work up to a point, but there may be significant problems when these variable sources become a larger percentage of the existing grid. This is a complex problem and many people are working to find a viable solution.

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