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Rupture Disk Reaction Forces For Closed System

07/19/2011 10:39 AM

Dear all,

I have a 14" pipe size rupture disk system(parralel to PRV),burst pressure 8.72 bar,temp 300 deg C, for stress analysis ,can I get a guide lines regarding forces to be considered for rupture disk?As known the shock loading be taken at first elbow from rupture disk ,how ever the reaction force calculation will be similar to PRV /PSV reaction force,In absence of data I am assuming 2*P*A as a reaction loads from RD(rupture disk),However as per API RP 520 Part II ,it is stated that the for steady state flow the reactionn forces generatted are negligilble however for non steady sate flow it is difficult to arrive the exact forces in the system hence dynamic analysis to be done to access the correct forces as the forces remains in the system unto the header connection.

My query

1) how to identify if my flow is steady state or not ,if not do I need to model the forces on each elbow upto the header connection?

2)what shuld be area of rupture disk considered for calculation of forces?ID of the pipe of actual bursting area of rupture disk?where can we get the actual bursting area of rupture disk?if actual area is not available what should be the thumb rule of area consideration?

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Re: Rupture Disk Reaction Forces For Closed System

07/19/2011 11:29 AM

I tis not possible to consider steady-state flow through a rupture disk, as by definition, before the disk bursts, the flow is zero, and after it has burst the flow spikes and then drops exponentially to protect the upstream vessel against overpressure.

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Re: Rupture Disk Reaction Forces For Closed System

07/28/2011 9:09 AM

My question is not to consider steady state flow through ruptue disc,but after first elbow downstream of RD ,will it be a steady state flow?The first elbow can be checked for Impact/shock loading as per API RP 520 Reaction force calculation,there is no clear guide lines in API RP 520 Part -II or ASME 31.1 regarding rupture disc.Do we need to consider the forces on each elbow in caesar modelling upto the header connection?if so what is the basis?If process confirms the flow type as steady state can we only check the piping for impact/shock loading at first elbow downstream of RD?

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Re: Rupture Disk Reaction Forces For Closed System

07/20/2011 3:24 AM

As a precaution: Our experiences with rupture disks show that they have very little tolerance for fatigue loads. You may find that pressure cycles on the disks will lower the rupture pressure of the disks. The vendor should be queried in regards to their product, if your pressure will be cycling on the disk.

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Re: Rupture Disk Reaction Forces For Closed System

07/28/2011 9:20 AM

dear BDThompson,

My Query is regarding stress analysis of the piping system involving consideration of reaction forces to be considered in software -CAESAR-II,API RP 520 & ASME 31.1 gives the formula for calculation of these reaction forces.

Usually PSV for closed system is checked for Impact reaction force & bending moment generated due to the forces ,forces considered only at first elbow downstream of PSV for steady state flow since the forces will get balance for rest of the elbow pairs,

But there is no clear gudelines I could get in applicable code for both PSV & RD?looking for basis to ignore these forces consideration except @ first elbow,flow type is confirmed as steady state flow @ downstream of PSV & RD.Could any one help me find the basis for this?

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