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Soft Starter Functioning

07/20/2011 1:07 PM

What is the starting voltage at the instant of starting of motor through soft starter and how the voltage builds up. It is said that the soft starter houses 3 pairs of thyristor with PWM technique, voltage is reduced during starting and gradually increased.

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Re: Soft Starter Functioning

07/20/2011 3:24 PM

You've got the correct concept but the wrong units. A soft starter gradually increases the current through the stator windings not the voltage. This current is modulated by using a Pulse Width Modulation technique of the voltage applied to the inductive stator windings through the three thyristors (one per stator phase winding). Don't forget that the current through an inductor will follow the differential equation of V=Ldi/dt. Now the minimum current "start" condition will change significantly depending on the motor size and the driven mechanical load. This is why all of the soft starters I've seen have user select able settings for starting conditions.

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Re: Soft Starter Functioning

07/20/2011 4:07 PM

Sorry, no. All a soft starter can technically control is the RMS voltage. By taking a feedback loop of current, you can control current by modulating the voltage.

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Re: Soft Starter Functioning

07/20/2011 4:05 PM

Starting voltage is usually adjustable, theoretically from zero to 100%. But practically, there is no point in having it start at a level that produces insufficient torque to overcome the inertia in the load and motor. That is going to be different in every application.

3 pairs of thyristors is good, there are designs that do it differently and they are problematic.

It is not PWM, that is for VFDs. Soft Starters use Phase Angle Control to reduce the RMS voltage. The turn-on (gating) of the thyristors is delayed within each sine wave so that it is only on for a portion of the sequence, reducing the RMS by virtue of the time it is allowed to conduct, but it stops conducting when the sine wave crosses zero, not before. So frequency is unaffected, only RMS voltage that gets to the load. To ramp the voltage, the gate timing is moved back closer to the inception point (first zero cross) of the sine wave and when it gets there, the output is 100%.

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Re: Soft Starter Functioning

07/23/2011 3:50 AM

The softstarter makes use of the fact that when the motor voltage is low during start, the starting current and starting Torque is also low. The motor voltage is regulated with a printed circuit board

During the first part of the start the voltage to the motor is so low that it is only able to adjust the play between the gear wheels or stretching driving belts or chains etc. In other words, eliminating unnecessary jerks during the start. Gradually, the voltage and the torque increase so that the machinery starts to accelerate.

Thyristors are semi-conducting components connected in an anti-parallel fashion and placed in two or three phases of the main circuit. They regulate (by increasing or decreasing) the level of voltage during start and the stop ramp, as described in the picture Above. During a continuous run the thyristors are conducting fully.

Off (non blue portion) : Thyristor is non-conducting

On (blue portion): Thyristor is conducting

Start: The thyristors let part of the voltage through at the beginning and then increase it, according to the set ramp time for the start.

Stop: The thyristors are fully conducting and when soft stopping, they decrease the voltage according to the set ramp time for stop.

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