Previous in Forum: SAE Check Valve   Next in Forum: Air Enter Into System
Close
Close
Close
7 comments
Rate Comments: Nested
Commentator
India - Member - Proud to be INDIAN Engineering Fields - Power Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bengaluru, India
Posts: 91

Back EMF Test

07/27/2011 8:08 AM

Why back emf test is performed on any motors and in particular Brushless Permanent Magnet motors?

__________________
you need to go, to get something
Register to Reply
Interested in this topic? By joining CR4 you can "subscribe" to
this discussion and receive notification when new comments are added.

"Almost" Good Answers:

Check out these comments that don't yet have enough votes to be "official" good answers and, if you agree with them, vote them!
Commentator

Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 69
#1

Re: Back emf test

07/27/2011 8:21 AM
__________________
The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse get's the cheese.
Register to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Commentator
India - Member - Proud to be INDIAN Engineering Fields - Power Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bengaluru, India
Posts: 91
#2
In reply to #1

Re: Back emf test

07/29/2011 12:58 AM

Hello dcpppf,

Thanks for your reply.

But the links explains only what is back emf and i am clear about the concept. But my question is why back emf test is performed in motor testing?

Regards,

sharath

__________________
you need to go, to get something
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Van Nuys, CA
Posts: 563
Good Answers: 33
#3
In reply to #2

Re: Back emf test

07/29/2011 2:50 AM

If you truly do understand BEMF, then you should understand why it is part of testing. As with any other design factor, physical measurements are needed to verify calculated design values.

Register to Reply
Commentator
India - Member - Proud to be INDIAN Engineering Fields - Power Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bengaluru, India
Posts: 91
#4
In reply to #3

Re: Back emf test

07/29/2011 7:16 AM

The tests will be performed to verify the design values and practical values. I do agree. But what is the significance of back emf testing? Which parameters are verified? Just i am trying to understand to answer to my friend who is working in production line.

I think you are expert, please answer.

__________________
you need to go, to get something
Register to Reply
Guru
United Kingdom - Member - Indeterminate Engineering Fields - Control Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In the bothy, 7 chains down the line from Dodman's Lane level crossing, in the nation formerly known as Great Britain. Kettle's on.
Posts: 32175
Good Answers: 839
#5
In reply to #4

Re: Back emf test

07/29/2011 7:33 AM

Quality Assurance.

__________________
"Did you get my e-mail?" - "The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place" - George Bernard Shaw, 1856
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Van Nuys, CA
Posts: 563
Good Answers: 33
#6
In reply to #4

Re: Back emf test

07/29/2011 2:18 PM

The exact reason and method a particular production line uses a particular test is determined by their engineers.

A simple overview is here --http://dcacmotors.blogspot.com/2010/03/waveform-of-brushless-dc-motor.html

Register to Reply
Commentator
India - Member - Proud to be INDIAN Engineering Fields - Power Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bengaluru, India
Posts: 91
#7
In reply to #6

Re: Back emf test

07/30/2011 1:01 AM

Pantaz,

Thanks for your reply, the link explains back emf waveforms in a better way.

but i got the answer,

Back emf test is performed because the relationship between the back EMF and torque is so predictable.

Explaining:

KE= eLL / wm where 'KE' - back emf constant , eLL - peak line voltage & wm - speed in rad/sec

and eLL is approximately equal to Vs where Vs is supply voltage.

In similar way Torque constant 'KT' can be measured as

KT= T / I where T- Torque in Nm and I - DC supply current to the controller

in the ideal conditions with no saturation, no resistance and no voltage drops in the controller,

KT = KE

And Pelec= eLLI = VsI = Twm

Hence this test predicts torque output of the motor.

This explaination is with respect to 3 phase square wave brushless dc motors.

__________________
you need to go, to get something
Register to Reply
Register to Reply 7 comments

"Almost" Good Answers:

Check out these comments that don't yet have enough votes to be "official" good answers and, if you agree with them, vote them!
Copy to Clipboard

Users who posted comments:

dcpppf (1); pantaz (2); PWSlack (1); sharath4 (3)

Previous in Forum: SAE Check Valve   Next in Forum: Air Enter Into System

Advertisement