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NTCP Supported TV vs PAL Supported TV

08/04/2011 8:49 AM

The televisions in US are NTCP supported, but in India there are PAL supported. I am not sure whether NTCP supporrted tv will run in India, or does it really make a difference in this case? If anybody know, please share the info.

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Re: NTCP Supported TV vs PAL Supported TV

08/04/2011 9:13 AM

You won't have colour, and the picture will probably keep rolling.

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08/04/2011 9:29 AM

No.....it won't work. Totally different systems.

#1....its NTSC not NTCP...and that was the old Analog standard....the current digital over the air standard is ATSC.

Google up "difference between NTSC and PAL" if you are interested in more details.

It gets even more complicated as there are variants ( think different flavors) to both NTSC as well as PAL systems. So not all the NTSC standards are compatible with each other nor are all the PAL variants compatible with each other.

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Re: NTCP Supported TV vs PAL Supported TV

08/04/2011 9:31 AM

I think you mean NTSC. The original NTSC standard used 60 Hz interlaced video (30hz running two frames), whereas PAL is progressive scanned (not interlaced) at 50 hz.

It is my understanding that the two are incompatible without a complex conversion routine.

I believe that regular HD is likewise incompatible, though I believe that BluRay may be a universal standard. Perhaps someone else can furnish more info about this.

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Re: NTCP Supported TV vs PAL Supported TV

08/04/2011 11:35 AM

An NTSC TV will run in India just fine...as long as it is receiving and NTSC encoded signal.

If you have $30, you can buy this:

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS274&q=ntsc+pal+converter&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=14705531026355022097&sa=X&ei=prs6TtevFqrUiAK5zMW2Dg&ved=0CEkQ8wIwAw#

Or try to find one second hand...they are quite abundant.

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08/05/2011 2:58 AM

Cuba,

That device is a PC to TV converter. Useless for the OP.

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08/04/2011 1:13 PM

yeah they may be incompatible, It will run in india two, but do we receive NTSC signals in india??can i buy a tv there, bring it in india and run

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08/04/2011 1:18 PM

No, in India you receive PAL B signals. An NTSC tv will NOT work as is.

Here is a table....

http://countrycode.org/tv-standards

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08/04/2011 3:13 PM

An NTSC television will work anywhere, as long as the signal feeding it is NTSC. If I connected my NTSC DVD/VCR/whatever to my NTSC television/monitor in Australia, India, Russia, or the South Pole to a device providing an NTSC signal...it will work.

If I had a converter to change whatever the broadcast, cable, FiOS or whatever means provided to NTSC from whatever it would work as long as the display device utilized NTSC.

This is assuming, of course, you can even turn it on based on the 50/60 Hz and 240/120/whatever voltage.

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08/04/2011 3:21 PM

WHY buy and drag an NTC tv to India just to HAVE to buy and use a converter that will further degrade the picture when you can just buy the correct PAL tv in the first place.

Converters are a halfassed approach to dealing with the issue. And extra point of failure. And something else to draw and consume electric. And in a place that doesn't have the most stable power to begin with, you are begging for it to die......and $30 converters are NOT high quality products to begin with.

Its not like PAL tv's are hard to find or anything.

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08/04/2011 3:23 PM

Oh, I quite agree...

The OP just asked if it were possible.

Maybe he got a case lot sale on old NTSC sets that were being dumped by "electronic recyclers" and wanted to run his own network. I don't know what his motivations were.

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08/04/2011 10:35 PM

Totally different standards.

We Europeans, sorry, call NTSC "Never The Same Color". The Red's are almost without detail. A NTSC has 1 main advantage: it is dirt cheap and doesn't need as many components as a PAL TV.

When I moved from Europe to the US, I bought one of Philips' digital multi -standard TV's and it worked very well. The principle is different: The signals are AD'ed and then sent to the tube.

Because of Teletext, 7 channels in one picture, stereo sound e.g. I only had to modify the tuner module to get the audio signal to mono, because the caption

(white text) caused a hiss tone when shown.

This TV served me well for 10 years.

Pal/NTSC converters do not give you a better result and vice/versa even worse.

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08/04/2011 10:36 PM

Most new TV's purchased in Europe or Asia are capable of handling both NTSC and PAL formats (and some can also handle SECAM as well). They can be set to automatically change for the signal received. This has been the case for several years now.

I am not sure though if one's purchased in the US have the same capability. But typically these days manufacturers are just making one system for all markets and then just changing the firmware for the intended final market.

So check before you buy if it can handle both inputs or not.

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08/04/2011 11:03 PM

Its almost impossible to buy NTSC tv's now....the only ones I see are the little portable toys. Everything I see is ATSC which sometimes have a NTSC tuner in them....but nearly all over the air transmissions are ATSC digital.....you need a digital converter box or a cable box with cable to even use a NTSC tv in the USA today.

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08/05/2011 12:31 AM

The question is interesting, but outdated. The US left any analog TV last year with the lower frequency channels. It is all digital now in the 470MHz+ frequency band.

Converters are cheap and lousy. On the other hand, you can still buy better converters in Manhattan, New York electronic stores, that do a credible work. They generally have different tape decks with some "glue" electronic board connecting them. But, what is the point? Satellite transmissions are everywhere, all digital?!?

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08/05/2011 1:03 AM

Is the poster talking about a Television set? With satellite receivers, you receive digital and use only part of what is in the television. You can even go Video and audio apart.

Is Pal video and NTSC video the same?

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08/05/2011 2:59 AM

Is Pal video and NTSC video the same? NO

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08/05/2011 3:45 PM

If you have to ask, maybe leave the answers to the engineers on the engineering forum...otherwise sit back, relax, read and learn. And oh, use Google a little.

May I suggest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTSC, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATSC

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08/09/2011 10:32 AM

Satellite is great in 100% coverage areas. Unfortunately, that is not most of the country (US).

My cable never loses signal due to rain. My cable doesn't need re-aligned after a wind storm. My cable isn't in a fringe zone for any channel I have.

I know that the cable comes in via satellite to my local provider, but I don't want a 10m dish and a shelter in my yard (unless it's for ARGUS).

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Re: NTCP Supported TV vs PAL Supported TV

08/05/2011 2:15 PM

i think i got the answer that i am looking for I may need a covertor to run an ntsc tv with pal signals, and also ntsc tv will have bad colour, so it is of no use to buy ntsc. It will be good if we do not bring ntsc tv in india It will be any time better to buy a pal supported tv. Thanks to all

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Re: NTCP Supported TV vs PAL Supported TV

08/08/2011 6:23 AM

There are several levels of incompatibility between US and Indian TV systems so it is really not worth trying use and American TV in India (nor in most other countries for that matter).

First there is the TV system NTSC or PAL in their variants,

Secondly there are differences in the broadcast bands used (which VHF or UHF sub-band is used) and channel spacings,

Thirdly there is the mains voltage, India is a very variable 230V, the USA a slightly less variable 110V.

Given all these problems it is not worth the effort or expense to convert the signal especially since the NTSC system is a lower quality system than PAL so you will never get a decent picture

There are TVs multi-standard TVs made for the international market, however TVs sold in the USA are almost invariably only suitable for North American use. Whereas much electronic equipment sold outside the USA is multi-standard and multi-voltage, most consumer equipment available in the USA is single standard and voltage (laptops are an exception).

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08/09/2011 10:27 AM

actually only because of laptop, i have doubts, and you are right it is better to buy only a pal supported tv for pal signals

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