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Sagging of Tubes in a Heat Exchanger Tube Bundle

08/09/2011 12:24 AM

A 5 m long tube bundle of a shell & tube heat exchanger have eight supports in between two ends. When inspected at manufacturer's works, it was alright. But when opened after 6 months of use at site due to some problem, tubes are found sagging up to 15 mm at some places. Shell side is dry air at 40 bar to be cooled from 100 degC to 45 degC by cooling water in tubes at 3 bar.

When contacted manufacturer, they say it's a normal phenomenon in long tube bundles. But they are not able to say how much sagging is allowable and as per which standard/code? Can any one help in this matter.

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Re: Sagging of tubes in a heat exchanger tube bundle

08/09/2011 1:05 AM

Even if the baffles/supports alternate upper/lower, there should still be 4 supports along the length of each tube, spaced about 1 m. That amount of sag does seem high. I wonder if hot air was ever introduced when cooling water was not yet present. If so, that could heat the tubes more rapidly than the shell, creating a differential thermal expansion. I don't know if this amount of sag will damage the performance or integrity of the exchanger. Did the external pressure cause any of the tubes to be squished out of round?

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Re: Sagging of Tubes in a Heat Exchanger Tube Bundle

08/09/2011 8:16 AM

You might try contacting a representative from a different manufacturer to determine whether this phenomenon is industry-wide, or limited to just your own source. In other words, did they give you a real good price?

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Re: Sagging of Tubes in a Heat Exchanger Tube Bundle

08/09/2011 11:39 AM

I am curious what is the tube material specification, tube diameter, tube wall thickness and maximum span between tube support sheets.

Suggest you check out the Heat Exchanger Institute Standards at http://www.heatexchange.org/pub/default.htm

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08/09/2011 10:56 PM

Is it 'floating tubesheet' type or just 'fixed tubesheet' type?

If floating tubesheet, it should accommodate thermal expansion. On fixed tubesheet type, the expansion would obviouly lead to tube bending.

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08/10/2011 11:58 AM

Thanks for all comments. Its fixed tube sheet type. Ends are expanded and welded with tube sheet.

Details asked by Gunnet: Tubes are cupro-nickle. All the tubes are supported at eight places. Support span is around 0.5 m. tubes are 1.8 mm thick & dia is 14 mm. Application is inter-cooling of 4 stage centrifugal compressor.

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08/10/2011 1:52 PM

With the 14 mm tubes and the 1.1 m between supports (assuming that some tubes are supported by every other baffle), this is right at the maximum unsupported span per TEMA (Tubular Exchanger Manufacturer's Association) limits for Cu tubes at this diameter.

I don't think that the sag in and of itself is an issue. What can be an issue with long spans between supports, is vibration. If tubes are vibrating due to the shellside flow and contact each other, that will cause premature tube failures.

Monitor it for damage and progression of damage. If there is some contact damage and you have access, you can insert flat-bars between the tubes half-way between the baffles. Secure the outer ends of these to some kind of rim to keep them from moving.

If you have to buy another, pay attention to the baffle spacing and the vibration evaluation.

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08/11/2011 9:40 AM

GA Lawrence, you have correctly pointed out the real problem now- "vibration". All the tubes are supported at 8 places. The finned tubes are supported by a split hexagonal shape made of 1mm thick sheet metal resting on each other. Tubes at the middle are more affected. Sagged tubes could be be moved easily, even by finger. Hot air is entering from one side. Exchanger manufacturer says air velocity in shell is only 0.9 m/s and they have designed for much more velocity & they have made hundreds of exchangers with similar design.

It appears to me that supports are delicate, may be good enough for a steady air velocity but not for the sudden change in air velocity during start-up, tripping and surging of compressor. Exchangers are bought-out item for compressor manufacturer. Expecting more comments from the learned members.

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08/15/2011 7:40 AM

GA, for adding more clarity to question, seldom done by most OP's."finned tubes are supported by a split hexagonal shape made of 1mm thick sheet metal resting on each other"It appears to be the root cause of the problem. Acceleration and deceleration during surging and unplanned tripping of the machine is extremely high. Tube supports should be designed to take care of it. The split of the hexagonal shape sheet metal support may be opening up or getting flattened due to low thickness, allowing tubes to move up & down or side wise causing sagging. Putting any plate across to support, as suggested earlier by some one may affect heat transfer. A rigid support with allowance for thermal expansion may be the answer, which shall be done by OEM of exchanger.

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Re: Sagging of Tubes in a Heat Exchanger Tube Bundle

11/22/2016 7:28 AM

we have tube bundle in kettle re-boiler.in tubes hot oil flow,and in shell biler feed water to do steam generation. total length of the bundle 3048 mm .it has three baffle supports. equally spaced aproximatel 1000mm.after three years of operation thermal shock was happened due to low level of boiler feed water in shell side lead to sagging 2-2.5 cm along 1m length . is this sagging out of tolerance or not ? if out of tolerances answer to what are the sequences ?

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